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Re: -2000 Lines of Code (2007)

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Post by _ZeD_ »

threatripper wrote: post #6
1letterunixname wrote: post #2

+KLoC is a terrible KPI that optimizes for complexity, waste, and artificial job security-seeking behaviors.

But they ARE a KPI that is easy to understand and measure.

they are not a KPI in the first place. loc is not a performance index of any kind.

Re: -2000 Lines of Code (2007)

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Post by quelltext »

chii wrote: post #5

> they stopped asking Bill to fill out the form which is only possible because he's so important. imagine doing this as a stack-ranked IC in an org like AWS. The old days of a software as an artisanal craft is long over imho.

I'm by no means important in my org but when something appears like a shitty idea I will raise that (like other ICs around me) and more often than not it works out fine. I'll agree to give something a shot but if it doesn't work it doesn't work and my managers so far have all realized that a bit into the trial period.

Reading comments like yours, I guess I should value my work environment more.

Re: -2000 Lines of Code (2007)

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Post by praptak »

The largest impact is sometimes asking simple questions (how are you going to handle X?) which leads to not building something. When this something hasn't ever had a chance to work, you saved the whole cost of trying to build it.

This is not only impossible to measure as a numerical metric but also makes you enemies. Kudos to those who dare to do that anyway.

Re: -2000 Lines of Code (2007)

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Post by bickeringyokel »

quelltext wrote: post #14
chii wrote: post #5

> they stopped asking Bill to fill out the form which is only possible because he's so important. imagine doing this as a stack-ranked IC in an org like AWS. The old days of a software as an artisanal craft is long over imho.

I'm by no means important in my org but when something appears like a shitty idea I will raise that (like other ICs around me) and more often than not it works out fine. I'll agree to give something a shot but if it doesn't work it doesn't work and my managers so far have all realized that a bit into the trial period. Reading comments like yours, I guess I should value my work environment more.

The question is really more do they actually act on the feedback on a regular basis?

Re: -2000 Lines of Code (2007)

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Post by hinkley »

bickeringyokel wrote: post #12

The cynic in me believes managers actually don't want good metrics because then they have evidence of their bad leadership.

It’s why they love claiming “culture fit” on anyone older than them. 28 year old managers feeling threatened by 30 year old employees.

Re: -2000 Lines of Code (2007)

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Post by hinkley »

Gave myself RSI deleting On the plus side I replaced an O(n²) algorithm with a faster one in the very next commit. Needed to get rid of the ninety copies of the same bad idiom first.
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