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Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by vasco »

ts330 wrote: post #3

Exciting? Possibly for those involved. I hate to say this, as I'm generally optimistic towards most developments like this, but over the last decade I've become so apathetic towards anything and everything from Google. They've lost so much mindshare and credibility. Their org structure leads to stagnation left, right and centre. I'd rather tolerate the poor status quo in React land than take any sort of bet on Google…

Google was too innovative and successful to use external consultants and so the consultants joined the company as employees and did it from the inside!

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by approxim8ion »

ecmascript wrote: post #10

I hate Angular with a passion. It's easily the most verbose, overly complex front end framework I've ever used which just takes the fun out of building web apps and make it a pure pain. I would rather work on a farm and shovel pig shit all day than work in Angular again. My last job forced Angular on me, I quit after a while (not because of solely that reason) but I told them Angular was a bad choice and they chose t…

To offer a differing experience, I've been working in Angular for a couple of years now and personally like it quite a bit. I don't like frontend frameworks in general, but given the choice I prefer Angular over React.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by throwaway290 »

easton wrote: post #5

For people who didn't know: Wiz is apparently a internal framework that Google uses for their apps that wasn't ever open sourced (at least, not completely, based on a quick search). At least they'll be dogfooding Angular now hopefully.

I thought some teams at Google were dogfooding Angular for many years now?

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by usui »

ecmascript wrote: post #10

I hate Angular with a passion. It's easily the most verbose, overly complex front end framework I've ever used which just takes the fun out of building web apps and make it a pure pain. I would rather work on a farm and shovel pig shit all day than work in Angular again. My last job forced Angular on me, I quit after a while (not because of solely that reason) but I told them Angular was a bad choice and they chose t…

I seldom see this opinion but I'm glad to read it. People complain about JSX on the React side but what on Earth am I reading when I see the templating language that Angular came up with? ngIf, ngBlah. Much worse than JSX, which is subordinate to JavaScript code, not equal. I also have been forced to use Angular at the workplace and it killed any fun making web apps had. People say Angular is great for enterprise because it removes the burden of deciding things, but this indicates an organizational problem being solved technologically. In other words: Never a good thing.

Similar conversation 10 months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35811256

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by rimunroe »

jgalt212 wrote: post #8

Can anyone recommend a good resource discussing the interplay between highly optimized js bundles and code caching? i.e. it seems to be me that one would benefit by serving the same js blob on most / all pages even if it includes unused code because then you pretty much always utilize the code cache.

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your question but why would you want a single bundle vs multiple bundles?

If you have a single blob you have to invalidate the whole thing when it updates. If you split your code out into multiple bundles you can invalidate only the bundles which contain changes. As far as I know this has been standard practice for the last decade at least.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by tosh »

bruh2 wrote: post #12

Off topic, but is there any chance to avoid sharing Twitter links? Would rather not log in to the site

In this case I spent 5 minutes trying to find a different source but the tweet thread is the best I could find unfortunately. There is no official blog post afaiu.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Post by pavlov »

vasco wrote: post #11
ts330 wrote: post #3

Exciting? Possibly for those involved. I hate to say this, as I'm generally optimistic towards most developments like this, but over the last decade I've become so apathetic towards anything and everything from Google. They've lost so much mindshare and credibility. Their org structure leads to stagnation left, right and centre. I'd rather tolerate the poor status quo in React land than take any sort of bet on Google…

Google was too innovative and successful to use external consultants and so the consultants joined the company as employees and did it from the inside!

Google today feels like Nokia of the mid-2000s. Victim of its own massive success, taken over by internal politics and divisions. Employs lots of smart people who figured out key ideas for next-gen tech early, but the organization is unable to take any of those innovations to market. And so it’s just stuck milking its cash cow.

Google’s AI strategy is as clear as Nokia’s smartphone software strategy was.

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