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Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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I half-expect some sub-branch of the abrahamic religions to issue an edict against AI, arguing that it's a false idol. (Not that I am arguing for this.)

Nah, we’ll just get ‘Kosher’ chatbots. https://m.jpost.com/judaism/article-742328

Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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I half-expect some sub-branch of the abrahamic religions to issue an edict against AI, arguing that it's a false idol. (Not that I am arguing for this.)

I half expect some religion to claim to have some divinely inspired neural network weights.

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> Elder Gong said reliance on the Holy Spirit can help inoculate against deepfakes. How does that work?

I'm a former member of the church - From a faithful practitioner's perspective, the Holy Spirit acts as a moral guide. He's intended to help you identify right and wrong, and provide guidance in decision making. If one is living righteously you're promised to have that guidance available to you. That guidance is received personally. Most people think of it as strong feelings they have in situations.

I think the idea here is that that guidance will help people avoid being deceived by deepfakes.

Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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> Elder Gong said reliance on the Holy Spirit can help inoculate against deepfakes. How does that work?

The Church of Jesus Christ has some interesting teachings about epistemology, there is a good summary of them in this article, under the "Different Ways of Learning" heading https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/lawrence-e-corbridge/stand-fo...

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> Elder Gong said reliance on the Holy Spirit can help inoculate against deepfakes. How does that work?

Church Members have a somatic sense mapped to the Holy Spirit, and regularly experience symbolic & somatic injections.

When those occur, the somatic sense of the Spirit is used to discern if the semantic/somatic injection is of God or not.

Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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I half-expect some sub-branch of the abrahamic religions to issue an edict against AI, arguing that it's a false idol. (Not that I am arguing for this.)

It will get much more anti- when it becomes clearer just how eerily fitting one of the early 'heretical' group's beliefs are to AI and digital twins.

For example, the group believed that it was actually the future but we were in a recreation of the past in the images of an original (and now dead) humanity who had brought forth a still alive intelligence based in light that recreated a twin of the universe pretty much just to resurrect humanity.

They talked about how it was the consumption of one's words that brought them back, not consumption of flesh and blood. How many would be combined into a single one, and that when we one day saw a child not born of woman it would be the creator of this twin universe, which in actuality isn't physical and is just its light in the images of what existed before.

It's a bit ironic as it's the most compelling tradition for Jesus having actually had any prophetic knack, but embracing it means acknowledging that the past 2,000 years of Christian tradition backed the wrong horse.

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> Elder Gong said reliance on the Holy Spirit can help inoculate against deepfakes. How does that work?

You believe only what you've been told to believe. Everything else is deepfake.

This comment is in direct conflict with the actual teachings of the faith.

From the introduction to the Book of Mormon, a central Holy Scripture to the faith:

> We invite all men everywhere to read the Book of Mormon, to ponder in their hearts the message it contains, and then to ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ if the book is true. Those who pursue this course and ask in faith will gain a testimony of its truth and divinity by the power of the Holy Ghost. (See Moroni 10:3–5.)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/in...

Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Putting aside the weird beliefs, the principles themselves are actually pretty decent and widely applicable. Strange place for principled thought leadership to come from :-/

Religion is a strange place for principled thought leadership to come from ?

One might say that it has been the quintessential source of principled thought leadership.

Re: Guiding Principles for the Mormon Church's Use of AI

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Putting aside the weird beliefs, the principles themselves are actually pretty decent and widely applicable. Strange place for principled thought leadership to come from :-/

> the weird beliefs

I'm an atheist and a materialist so I share basically nothing of that kind of worldview, but those beliefs aren't actually that much outside the mainstream. The Holy Ghost as the third person of the trinity powering your faith is mainstream Christianity, not weird stuff from the book of Mormon -- if you don't believe that you probably aren't a Christian at all.

> Strange place for principled thought leadership to come from

When it comes to AI I'm really not surprised. The weird ones out have been those in the tech and tech-adjacent (especially) spaces, saying things that are often completely untethered. When you take out the violent and mean-spirited nature it is often said with, "go touch grass" isn't a bad suggestion...

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