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Good thing no Musk owned companies have a well established track record of faking the entire thing

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They are referring to Tesla promotional FSD videos being heavily edited.

https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-faked-autopilot-video-engin...

While not an Musk company, it is worth remembering Theranos demos being convincingly faked as well. I don't know if it is happening here but it does happen.

Re: Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during interview

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I love that one of the first things he said he did was binge on Civilization 6 until 6am. Welcome back, buddy!

Strangely that simple example was the most powerful part for me. I've done that so many times and it was such a fun experience. Now he gets to re-live that joy (and follow up shame) again!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They are referring to Tesla promotional FSD videos being heavily edited. https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-faked-autopilot-video-engin... While not an Musk company, it is worth remembering Theranos demos being convincingly faked as well. I don't know if it is happening here but it does happen.

Doesn’t have to be faked either, I remember the Emotiv made similar claims and had similar demos where to the best of my understanding eventually people figured out it wasn’t really reading your brainwaves but rather facial muscles or something (a friend of mine works in brain computer interfacing and explained it to me once but I don’t remember the details — it wasn’t that they were actively trying to mislead necessarily, more akin to leaking validation data into neural network training than to outright deceiving).

Re: Neuralink patient controls games by thinking during interview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They are referring to Tesla promotional FSD videos being heavily edited. https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-faked-autopilot-video-engin... While not an Musk company, it is worth remembering Theranos demos being convincingly faked as well. I don't know if it is happening here but it does happen.

A single event isn't a "track record". Though I guess he's been touting the Robotaxi idea for a long time and it still isn't anywhere on the horizon.

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It is fascinating. But looking at this guy condition, playing games would be IMHO not the prio. I would hook up the remote controlling to a robotic exoskeleton, for just be back and function normal. I guess that also can be detected ( intention to move feet or hands in any direction ). But let's see, we are really at the beginning.

I don't think it can simultaneously control the dozens of degrees of freedom that a robot would have. Yet. You only need three degrees of freedom for a mouse with button. That alone is transformational for a quadriplegic.

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It is fascinating. But looking at this guy condition, playing games would be IMHO not the prio. I would hook up the remote controlling to a robotic exoskeleton, for just be back and function normal. I guess that also can be detected ( intention to move feet or hands in any direction ). But let's see, we are really at the beginning.

there is good works done in this article:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06094-5

https://www.cea.fr/english/Pages/News/brain-computer-interfa...

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Good thing no Musk owned companies have a well established track record of faking the entire thing

Exactly my thoughts, unfortunately.

But giving it the benefit of the doubt, this looks mind blowing to me !

It was kind of known that the research and tech is almost there for a while already, but seeing the demonstration live like that - incredible !

But then it takes me back to those Musk companies - maybe it's just a repackaged already available research presented in a nice way - making us believe it could be 'deployed' in real world, while in reality it can only be done in a very controlled environment. And we are led to believe that we are '2 weeks away' from it being widely available. Hope we're wrong here.

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It is fascinating. But looking at this guy condition, playing games would be IMHO not the prio. I would hook up the remote controlling to a robotic exoskeleton, for just be back and function normal. I guess that also can be detected ( intention to move feet or hands in any direction ). But let's see, we are really at the beginning.

Better than an exoskeleton is a second implant below his C4/5 to reconnect his spinal chord with his brain via wifi.
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