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Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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Is anyone more knowledgeable able to interpret the paper beyond ‘brain waves wash toxins’? Are they actually responsible for the observed activity, or do they merely trigger some ‘flushing’ mechanism inherent to the cells? Or, are the waves a result of that process?

Wouldn’t it be cool if we could periodically trigger waves like this to refresh the brain and maybe require less (or no) sleep! I have no expertise in this area I’m just a dreamer :)

the trigger could be like a sequence of flashes or certain pulsing of sound frequencies, it'd be like hacking the nervous system via unsanitized inputs

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Is anyone more knowledgeable able to interpret the paper beyond ‘brain waves wash toxins’? Are they actually responsible for the observed activity, or do they merely trigger some ‘flushing’ mechanism inherent to the cells? Or, are the waves a result of that process?

The paper shows a correlation between the observed ‘brain waves’ and the ‘toxin removal’. From the abstract: ‘These waves are a plausible mechanism to explain the correlated potentiation of the glymphatic flow through the brain parenchyma’. I think the main objective of this paper is to justify more funding to explore this phenomenon, to establish causation (beyond correlation).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn’t it be cool if we could periodically trigger waves like this to refresh the brain and maybe require less (or no) sleep! I have no expertise in this area I’m just a dreamer :)

the trigger could be like a sequence of flashes or certain pulsing of sound frequencies, it'd be like hacking the nervous system via unsanitized inputs

Have you read Snow Crash?

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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That's a really interesting scientific finding. From a personal experience, once I closed my eyes and actually observed this phenomenon. I could observe many spherical waves of light each pulsating, and not only that but I could feel the effect of each wave viscerally. It definitely felt healing. I wasn't sure what this was, was it the vibes of meditators around the world? Maybe this research finding is what I was observing.

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Is anyone more knowledgeable able to interpret the paper beyond ‘brain waves wash toxins’? Are they actually responsible for the observed activity, or do they merely trigger some ‘flushing’ mechanism inherent to the cells? Or, are the waves a result of that process?

Wouldn’t it be cool if we could periodically trigger waves like this to refresh the brain and maybe require less (or no) sleep! I have no expertise in this area I’m just a dreamer :)

Meditation?

Re: Brain waves appear to wash out waste during sleep in mice

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There is an mri greyscale clip that shows this process I saw a couple of years ago but could never find it back. It showed spinal fluid “washing” the brain. If anyone knows where I can find it, please link.

There’s this one I just found - [https://player.vimeo.com/video/370150539?background=1](https...
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