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4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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I wish they dug into how this monstrosity is powered. Assuming 1V and 24kW, that's 24kAmps.

and cooling! Imagine the heat sink on that thing. Would look like a cast-iron Dutch oven :)

The one of the videos posted here gets into that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39693930: https://vimeo.com/853557623

Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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post #9

I wish they dug into how this monstrosity is powered. Assuming 1V and 24kW, that's 24kAmps.

and cooling! Imagine the heat sink on that thing. Would look like a cast-iron Dutch oven :)

24kW translates to like 32hp, so you could imagine this thing with a liquid cooling loop hooked up to something that looks like a car radiator.

Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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- Interconnect between WSE-2's chips in the cluster was 150GB/s, much lower than NVIDIA's 900GB/s.

- non-sparse fp16 in WSE-2 was 7.5 tflops (about 8 H100s, 10x worse performance per dollar)

Does anyone know the WSE-3 numbers? Datasheet seems lacking loads of details

Also, 2.5 million USD for 1 x WSE-3, why just 44GB tho???

Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

#17
It has its own programming language CSL

https://www.cerebras.net/blog/whats-new-in-r0.6-of-the-cereb...

"CSL allows for compile time execution of code blocks that take compile-time constant objects as input, a powerful feature it inherits from Zig, on which CSL is based. CSL will be largely familiar to anyone who is comfortable with C/C++, but there are some new capabilities on top of the C-derived basics."

https://github.com/Cerebras/csl-examples

Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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- Interconnect between WSE-2's chips in the cluster was 150GB/s, much lower than NVIDIA's 900GB/s. - non-sparse fp16 in WSE-2 was 7.5 tflops (about 8 H100s, 10x worse performance per dollar) Does anyone know the WSE-3 numbers? Datasheet seems lacking loads of details Also, 2.5 million USD for 1 x WSE-3, why just 44GB tho???

44GB is the SRAM on a single device, comparable to the 50MB of L2 on the H100. There is also a lot of directly attached DRAM.

Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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post #11
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and cooling! Imagine the heat sink on that thing. Would look like a cast-iron Dutch oven :)

The one of the videos posted here gets into that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39693930 : https://vimeo.com/853557623

Thanks for sharing! Very interesting.

"We call it the engine block because it somewhat resembles a three cylinder motorcycle engine"

(referring to the power distribution and cooling)

Re: 4T transistors, one giant chip (Cerebras WSE-3) [video]

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post #3

Not trying to sound critical, but is there a reason to use 4B,000 vs 4T?

original title is: "4,000,000,000,000 Transistors, One Giant Chip (Cerebras WSE-3)" So I guess they're trying to stay true to it.

There are times where diverting from normal conventions make sense. The average consumer might not know that 1Gb/s is faster than 750Mb/s. That being said, I don't think I've ever seen anything along the lines of 1G,000b/s.
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