Leaving big markets has been done quite a few times. Most obviously when Google left the Chinese search market in 2010, something that conventional wisdom at the time said could never happen due to the sheer size of the market.
Could Apple Leave Europe?
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
No they weren't, Archimedes, Amiga and Ataris did survive in Europe until late 1990's, as any Computer Shopper magazine issue will prove. The demoscene and retrogaming scene in Europe proves how relevant those systems keep being even in 2024.
Survival as a niche toy is completely irrelevant for the business and productivity market.
In 2024, 1980 - 2000 was another matter.
Re: Could Apple Leave Europe?
#13Lies.. European market is the second biggest one, accounting for 25% the company's revenue in 2023.
Re: Could Apple Leave Europe?
#14Increased competition? Less monoculture? Yes, please!
less monoculture how??
today you have two competing phone OS, that is not a monoculture.
If Apple leave EU then there will be only Android.. It will be a monoculture then..
Also you do not increase competition by having less people competing.
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#15Increased competition? Less monoculture? Yes, please!
less monoculture how?? today you have two competing phone OS, that is not a monoculture. If Apple leave EU then there will be only Android.. It will be a monoculture then.. Also you do not increase competition by having less people competing.
> If Apple leave EU then there will be only Android.. It will be a monoculture then..
That would actually be great, because in that case the EU would have ground to impose Google to sell off the Android division (because it'd be a monopoly).
Re: Could Apple Leave Europe?
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
The examples you gave were all 80s systems, even in back waters like NZ :D By the end of the 80s even the big non-MS players were largely irrelevant, and the entirety of the second half the 1980-2000 was MS. If you're talking about hobbyist/minor OS's, those are more available today than any time previously, depending on your definitions I'd argue hobbyist hardware is more available as well. I'm not sure how Apple ex…
No they weren't, Archimedes, Amiga and Ataris did survive in Europe until late 1990's, as any Computer Shopper magazine issue will prove. The demoscene and retrogaming scene in Europe proves how relevant those systems keep being even in 2024.
"Existing" doesn't mean surviving in any meaningful sense, and if that is the argument you are taking, then the existence of apple in the EU definitionally did not impact that world either.
That's the later point I made: Apple existing does not, and did not, stop any of what you're saying you want from existing, and it didn't make it any less relevant either.
You're either talking about existence in the hobbyist/enthusiast sense, in which case apple's existence or not changes nothing, or you're talking about existence in the practical real world use sense in which basically no one other than MS was relevant for more than 50% of your stated time period, and even today apple's existence or not doesn't really change anything (if anything the existence of a large enough non-MS platform is what drove the cross platform frameworks like electron - for better or worse - that mean that a bunch of apps that would historically have been windows only are now also available on linux).
Re: Could Apple Leave Europe?
#17Increased competition? Less monoculture? Yes, please!
less monoculture how?? today you have two competing phone OS, that is not a monoculture. If Apple leave EU then there will be only Android.. It will be a monoculture then.. Also you do not increase competition by having less people competing.
If Google becomes a de facto monopolist, then the EU is more likely to restrict its market power further, up to and including divestiture.