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Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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Technical SAR question: Is the sea surface removed post-hoc, or does the sea not reflect these radar waves in a sufficient amount to show up? I seem to remember NISAR [1] will map land and ice - so presumably water ice shows up. I ask b/c if they are synthetically removing the sea surface at 1-5m resolution that seems really hard given tides, waves, etc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)

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Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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Technical SAR question: Is the sea surface removed post-hoc, or does the sea not reflect these radar waves in a sufficient amount to show up? I seem to remember NISAR [1] will map land and ice - so presumably water ice shows up. I ask b/c if they are synthetically removing the sea surface at 1-5m resolution that seems really hard given tides, waves, etc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)

The liquid water absorbs most of the radar wave (at least for the C band, as is the case of sentinel-1). Thus, in the images it appears natively "black". When there are a lot of waves, the surface of the water forms some spurious reflectors that appear as a light texture in the surface, but the signal is definitely less powerful than metal/concrete reflectors of buildings and ships. Notice that in the "Humber" image of TFA you can appreciate some texture in the water. The contrast in this image has been exaggerated a lot, which saturates most of the land.

Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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Technical SAR question: Is the sea surface removed post-hoc, or does the sea not reflect these radar waves in a sufficient amount to show up? I seem to remember NISAR [1] will map land and ice - so presumably water ice shows up. I ask b/c if they are synthetically removing the sea surface at 1-5m resolution that seems really hard given tides, waves, etc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)

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Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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I wonder at what density of wind farms they begin to interfere with each other's generating capacity. Presumably within one farm the turbines are sufficiently spaced that the reduction in power is minimal, but how large can an individual one get? Or is the amount of energy they take out of the wind negligable?

I don't have the answer handy, but I do know there is a ton of research that goes into wind farm optimization. Location of the towers, cost to build, etc.

I am curious how much small elevation differences impact optimal positioning of turbines, as that is a non-issue with offshore wind. The turbines in land-based wind farms are not in a nice grid like the offshore wind farm. https://openinframap.org/#9.68/41.6112/-92.4971

The excerpt from an abstract below mentions the wake turbulence can cause other turbines to shut down.

"...The distance between the turbines is among other things dependent on the recovery of wind energy behind the neighboring turbines and the increased wind load. Models for the mean wind speed and turbulence intensity in wind turbine parks are considered with emphasis on modeling the spatial correlation. Representative limit state equations for structural failure of wind turbine towers are formulated. The probability of failure is determined taking into account that wind turbines are parked for wind speeds larger than 25 m/s resulting in reduced wind loads. An illustrative example is presented where illustrative models for the spatial correlation is taken into account"

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/102866006011566...

Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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Technical SAR question: Is the sea surface removed post-hoc, or does the sea not reflect these radar waves in a sufficient amount to show up? I seem to remember NISAR [1] will map land and ice - so presumably water ice shows up. I ask b/c if they are synthetically removing the sea surface at 1-5m resolution that seems really hard given tides, waves, etc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)

The liquid water absorbs most of the radar wave (at least for the C band, as is the case of sentinel-1). Thus, in the images it appears natively "black". When there are a lot of waves, the surface of the water forms some spurious reflectors that appear as a light texture in the surface, but the signal is definitely less powerful than metal/concrete reflectors of buildings and ships. Notice that in the "Humber" image…

It actually does not absorb radar energy, rather it reflects it away (specular reflection). That's why rougher sea surface appears brighter on SAR as it turns from a specular to a diffuse scatterer. Furthermore, in some specific conditions (low incidence angle, closer to nadir), calm water can appear much brighter than other land surfaces.

Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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Technical SAR question: Is the sea surface removed post-hoc, or does the sea not reflect these radar waves in a sufficient amount to show up? I seem to remember NISAR [1] will map land and ice - so presumably water ice shows up. I ask b/c if they are synthetically removing the sea surface at 1-5m resolution that seems really hard given tides, waves, etc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)

Calm water surface is a specular scatterer, meaning radar energy will be reflected away, and proportionally so as the incidence angle increases.

Images collected at lower incidence (closer to nadir) might feature very bright surface water if it is calm, as more energy is reflected towards the radar.

Rough water surface is a diffuse scatterer, and will generally appear brighter than calm waters.

Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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post #5

I wonder at what density of wind farms they begin to interfere with each other's generating capacity. Presumably within one farm the turbines are sufficiently spaced that the reduction in power is minimal, but how large can an individual one get? Or is the amount of energy they take out of the wind negligable?

Wikipedia has a short paragraph on the topic with some references for more details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_farm#Turbine_spacing

Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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post #5

I wonder at what density of wind farms they begin to interfere with each other's generating capacity. Presumably within one farm the turbines are sufficiently spaced that the reduction in power is minimal, but how large can an individual one get? Or is the amount of energy they take out of the wind negligable?

A maximum of 60% of the winds power can be extracted from wind (Bet'z law [1]) and modern turbines are only capable of catching 80% of that. There's lots of research in optimal spacing.

I read that a rule of thumb was 4-5 diameter widths between turbines at right angles to prevailing wind and then 7 diameter widths between rows facing the wind

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betz%27s_law

Re: Sky lapse in two tone

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Technical SAR question: Is the sea surface removed post-hoc, or does the sea not reflect these radar waves in a sufficient amount to show up? I seem to remember NISAR [1] will map land and ice - so presumably water ice shows up. I ask b/c if they are synthetically removing the sea surface at 1-5m resolution that seems really hard given tides, waves, etc. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)

They're composite images, so there's definitely some post-processing going on. The sea surface will show up darker, but SAR is sufficiently sensitive to to detect oil slicks.
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