Lost in all coverage of this battle of the middlemen is the effect on the artists actually making the product. How would lower prices make any difference in Spotify’s royalty rate bullying in a market saturated with alternatives that they already dominate? Are there really that many more consumers who want but aren’t already paying for a streaming service or using free alternatives? There are legit discussions to be had about app store policies, but I can’t see how the music streaming context is the place to have them.
EU Commission protects consumers in Apple music streaming case
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#13Lost in all coverage of this battle of the middlemen is the effect on the artists actually making the product. How would lower prices make any difference in Spotify’s royalty rate bullying in a market saturated with alternatives that they already dominate? Are there really that many more consumers who want but aren’t already paying for a streaming service or using free alternatives? There are legit discussions to be…
It's definitely important, but the DMA isn't a response to the existence of music streaming services. It's a direct remediation for Apple's uniquely anticompetitive practices, which affects everyone, artists or not. Arguably, this was a necessary first-step to prevent other platforms from following Apple's example and presenting less choice to the user.
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It seems much more plausible to me that America is guilty of protectionism by neglecting to regulate their domestic tech businesses. Europe stands to lose nothing if Spotify goes bankrupt, but disrupting the mobile duopoly threatens America's iron grip on exported surveillance.
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I love Apple, they enabled me to turn from a waiter to a startup founder to a sold startup to a Google employee to a lifestyle I could never have imagined or gotten otherwise. I was writing iOS apps when it was iPhone OS, and there wasn't an SDK. I don't recognize these sniping negative off-topic comments that have become a regularity on articles about the App Store over the past 3-6 months. Way back then, we were ex…
You're thinking like a business owner. The people writing these sniping comments about the EU are acting like cult members, because Apple is a cult that happens to be in the form of a for-profit corporation. To you, 30% is someone your margin and then some. To Apple fans, it's a tithe that must be paid to the cult leader.
Excellent point - that's probably why the conversations were so much more vivid and interesting too -- we were all actively trying to figure out how to square A) building cool things for people B) being able to eat C) uncertainty if, as in the words of Stevie J, a rogue app could take down Cingular's network.
In reality, my primary concerns ended up being I used the App Store payments system so I had to give up 30%, meanwhile our well-funded competitors just did a "external account subscription".
Now, I've left Google, and I'm building an app that integrates multiple AI services. User places deposits and we charge out of the deposited amounts.
I feel ugly and complicit in user abuse by having to charge a 30% premium over the actual cost, without being able to even mention there's another option
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Spotify is an example of a tech company from the eu though?
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#19Lost in all coverage of this battle of the middlemen is the effect on the artists actually making the product. How would lower prices make any difference in Spotify’s royalty rate bullying in a market saturated with alternatives that they already dominate? Are there really that many more consumers who want but aren’t already paying for a streaming service or using free alternatives? There are legit discussions to be…
Spotify doesn't set rates for what artists get paid, labels that make their music available on Spotify do.
"Artists don't get paid fairly" is a tale that existed long before Spotify existed.
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It seems much more plausible to me that America is guilty of protectionism by neglecting to regulate their domestic tech businesses. Europe stands to lose nothing if Spotify goes bankrupt, but disrupting the mobile duopoly threatens America's iron grip on exported surveillance.
I'm glad the US does not adopt EU policies. Else we might see the dearth of progress in consumer technology that the EU has experienced over the past 20 years.
Someone actually has to incentivize building things and getting shit done, and the EU is clearly not it, as the last two decades show.
(There is probably a middle ground between the US and the EU but I'd rather err on the side of not shutting down consumer technology progress nearly completely like the EU has. Regulations take years to undo when you go too far.)