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Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

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Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#11

I think that WSL is useful and used by many. WSA, not so sure. Who is using it? They very likely have telemetry and thus usage.

> enables your Windows 11 device to run Android applications that are available in the Amazon Appstore

This might be the crux of it. Google probably will never port the Play store to Windows, MS doesn't want to maintain their own Android app store, and Amazon is a competitor with a pretty uncompelling app store to boot.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#12

I think that WSL is useful and used by many. WSA, not so sure. Who is using it? They very likely have telemetry and thus usage.

I'm using it from time to time. A lot of consumer equipment nowadays can only be operated with Android and iOS apps. For all those things I need WSA the Apps are off course not available in the official Amazon App Store, so i had to manually download them from f-droid and side load them with ADB.

I can see why WSA is not such an often used subsystem.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#13

They killed any possible interest in this by going with the Amazon app store instead of Google Play. They also did a horrible job of advertising it. This is the first I've heard about it from Microsoft since the feature first rolled out in Windows 11 2.5 years ago.

IIRC it didn't even ship with the original Windows 11 release and was a year behind or so. Did it ever even get out of beta?

This was the only feature of Windows 11 that was remotely interesting to me. I guess I don't have to worry about missing out on anything avoiding 11 now.

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#14
post #4

I feel like this was released just yesterday and now they are ending the support. Why?

Really good q I'm shocked too. Riffing:

Without Play Store it's not viable/interesting. Also, it's so. much. work. keeping up with Android releases, even inside Google. Wear and ChromeOS are always a version or two behind, and vast majority of the time, it is two versions.

If Google internally wasn't helpful enough to each other, I can't imagine they played nice with Microsoft on this.

The broad business war means there's no incentive for VPs to drive it.

Technical challenges via CTS* mean there's no incentive for 1-3 steps up the org chart to enable it.

The narrow-er business challenge of not having the Play Store is the final nail for any cooperation. I don't think Google is interested in proactively collaborating unless you do CTS.

* Android's CTS, compatibility test suite, has to be passed to get the Play Store, and broadly, it is organized around individual device launches, rather than a subsystem than can run on any hardware.

(n.b. I worked on Wear then Android at Google, 6 years total)

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#16
I found WSA kind of handy to run Pocket Casts on old Microsoft Surface Tablet. Had to jump through some hoops to install Google Play first.

What's the best alternative? Bluestacks seems very shady. Chrome OS Flex in a VM? (Scratch that. It looks like Chrome OS Flex doesn't allow Android apps)

P.S. Do we make "jokes" about Microsoft killing things off like we do with Google?

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#18
So, this is the second time a "run your Android apps on Windows" initiative fizzles out: before WSA (which was Amazon-centric), there was a late-2020 "Your Phone" feature that (briefly) allowed Samsung apps on Windows desktops.

Not sure if this means anything other than "phone apps run best on, well, a phone", especially since I can't think of anything from my phone that I would truly like on my desktop, other than instant messages, which are already available in various ways?

Re: Microsoft is ending support for the Windows Subsystem for Android (WSA)

#20

They killed any possible interest in this by going with the Amazon app store instead of Google Play. They also did a horrible job of advertising it. This is the first I've heard about it from Microsoft since the feature first rolled out in Windows 11 2.5 years ago.

The problem here is Google would have to agree to it and license the play store for it, which they might have wanted to.
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