Explain to me how this is a good thing?
It's no longer a modal dialog. Seems like a simple GUI improvement.
Why does "no longer a modal dialog" = "GUI improvement"? This isn't obvious to me at all...
Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
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Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#12For me, this is step backwards, because it breaks existing UI paradigms. Why is it a good thing for the preferences pane have to appear in a different place from where it does in every single other application on my OS ? And this deliberately confuses application content versus Internet content. Do you have to scroll down to click "OK"? What if it isn't visible? Or should it be labelled "save"? Why learn a new dialog…
I daresay by now users are more familiar with web-based UI paradigms than traditional OS paradigms. I think they'd spend more time interacting with web-based applications than traditional OS applications. If that's the case, then Firefox is actually adapting to people's expectation of the UI.
I dunno... people still use word-processors, spreadsheets, sometimes e-mail clients...
For me, this still makes as much sense as Excel opening up its preferences as a new spreadsheet, or a 3D rendering program asking you to edit a 3D wireframe to change options. Content is content, application is application -- I don't understand why confusing the two could ever be a good thing.
Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#13I like this because the current options window is modal and often I need to change an option while browsing the web.
I hope they do the same with the downloads list.
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#15I really don't care for Firefox's new versioning scheme. I'm still on Firefox 10 on Gentoo, and I don't feel much of a reason to upgrade. I felt that incrementing that number should be reserved for major changes. I didn't intend for this to be taken as a complaint about the Mozilla development team. It's just something I've found unusual in the development community. It's been confusing me, and I never understood the…
I don't feel much of a reason to upgrade.
Security updates? IIRC they are not releasing security updates for non-current versions.
Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's no longer a modal dialog. Seems like a simple GUI improvement.
On a Mac at least, the Preferences window is not modal. You can still interact with Firefox even though it is up. Is that not the case on other OSes?
On Windows it's modal. Dunno about the others.
Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's no longer a modal dialog. Seems like a simple GUI improvement.
Why does "no longer a modal dialog" = "GUI improvement"? This isn't obvious to me at all...
Because just looking at the preferences blocks everything else in Firefox? Given how important a browser is, this is quite annoying.
A trivial example is opening up preferences and then wanting to Google to figure out how to configure something. Not possible in the current design.
Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#18For me, this is step backwards, because it breaks existing UI paradigms. Why is it a good thing for the preferences pane have to appear in a different place from where it does in every single other application on my OS ? And this deliberately confuses application content versus Internet content. Do you have to scroll down to click "OK"? What if it isn't visible? Or should it be labelled "save"? Why learn a new dialog…
And this deliberately confuses application content versus Internet content.
This might well be by design. As I understand it's a Mozilla goal to reduce the barrier between native apps and web apps. The Firefox GUI itself is even some sort of webpage (XUL)...
Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#19I really don't care for Firefox's new versioning scheme. I'm still on Firefox 10 on Gentoo, and I don't feel much of a reason to upgrade. I felt that incrementing that number should be reserved for major changes. I didn't intend for this to be taken as a complaint about the Mozilla development team. It's just something I've found unusual in the development community. It's been confusing me, and I never understood the…
I don't feel much of a reason to upgrade. Security updates? IIRC they are not releasing security updates for non-current versions.
Perhaps, I hadn't thought that any significant security issues had been found in recent versions. Are there any I should be concerned about? If not, my reasoning is that I don't want to break what is working perfectly fine for me as is.
After looking at https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firef... there doesn't seem that there are any to be concerned about. However, in case you are right, I'm recompiling a more recent version of Firefox.
Re: Firefox 15 now supports in-content preferences
#20I really don't care for Firefox's new versioning scheme. I'm still on Firefox 10 on Gentoo, and I don't feel much of a reason to upgrade. I felt that incrementing that number should be reserved for major changes. I didn't intend for this to be taken as a complaint about the Mozilla development team. It's just something I've found unusual in the development community. It's been confusing me, and I never understood the…
Does it really matter though? It's an arbitrary number, and incrementing the major version just sets a clearer goal for each release cycle.
No it really doesn't matter. It wasn't so much a complaint, and I didn't intend for it to seem that way. I just didn't understand the reasoning behind it. It's not something that I dislike about the Mozilla team. Just something that is unusual in the development community.