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ShotSpotter: listening in on the neighborhood

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Re: ShotSpotter: listening in on the neighborhood

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I've experienced living in a neighborhood covered by shot spotter and hearing gun shots outside, and I think shot spotter is great. I want the cops to actually show up and arrest whoever is terrorizing everybody. Thank you very much

Do they?

Re: ShotSpotter: listening in on the neighborhood

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> It's not perfect, but the distance from your house to a ShotSpotter sensor correlates fairly well with your household income. The wealthier you are, the less surveilled you are. To give ABQ police the benefit of the doubt, that pattern could also be compatible with more gun crime equaling more surveillance. It would be nice to have enough gun crime and sensor location data to see how true that is. When the sensors…

I don't think the article is suggesting there is a conspiracy wherein the police decided to target lower income areas because they are poor. It is certainly because incidences of those crimes are higher in those areas.

What I think the article is suggesting is that policies like these, particularly when implemented without sufficient transparency or oversight, can cause dystopian-sounding outcomes, such as poor people's conversations being constantly recorded by the government while wealthier people remain un-surveilled.

Re: ShotSpotter: listening in on the neighborhood

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post #6

I've experienced living in a neighborhood covered by shot spotter and hearing gun shots outside, and I think shot spotter is great. I want the cops to actually show up and arrest whoever is terrorizing everybody. Thank you very much

Has having ShotSpotter in your neighborhood increased the safety? Is there faster response? higher arrest rate? decrease in crime?

Is there any verifiable third party evidence that ShotSpotter (or whatever it’s called now) can even do what it claims to?

Re: ShotSpotter: listening in on the neighborhood

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I had no idea. Two key takeaways... > Conversations recorded by ShotSpotter sensors have twice been introduced as evidence in criminal trials. In one case the court allowed it, in another the court did not. > ShotSpotter sensor correlates fairly well with your household income. The wealthier you are, the less surveilled you are.

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Re: ShotSpotter: listening in on the neighborhood

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I've experienced living in a neighborhood covered by shot spotter and hearing gun shots outside, and I think shot spotter is great. I want the cops to actually show up and arrest whoever is terrorizing everybody. Thank you very much

Do they?

Even in Baltimore where police response times can be total garbage..they will show up for shot spotter. At least from my experience.

Calling 911 for anything else there is a long delay unfortunately. Last time I called for a car jacking right outside my home I was on hold for ten mins. Cops didn't arrive for another 20.

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