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Billionaire-Fueled Lobbying Group Behind the State Bills to Ban UBI Experiments

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Only way a 3 (or more) party system works in the US is if we change the way we vote to a ranked-choice type of system with runoff elections. With first past the post, winner take all elections, multiple parties just makes it possible for politicians to win with smaller and smaller pluralities.

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UBI's critics expected these programs to have terrible outcomes, where recipients would spend their money on trivialities (or worse: drugs). Instead, what we find is that UBI recipients either spend it on essentials, stuff for their kids children or paying down debt.

I don’t really have any horse in the race but the experiments I’ve seen are hardly universal nor sufficiently guaranteed. It’s basically just a one time payment spread over some period, so it’s not surprising people would use money they know won’t be around forever for essentials.

On the other hand it would be nice to know what happened with all of the Covid checks since that also was given to many, but again hardly universal.

I think the main criticism against UBI is inflation and I haven’t seen any reasonable argument to why it wouldn’t happen.

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UBI's critics expected these programs to have terrible outcomes, where recipients would spend their money on trivialities (or worse: drugs). Instead, what we find is that UBI recipients either spend it on essentials, stuff for their kids children or paying down debt.

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> 3 party political system. Wonder if having 3 senators per state would help this along.

Let’s not stop there. Set the number of senators in proportion to the state’s population, in order to be a more representative democracy.

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> 3 party political system. Wonder if having 3 senators per state would help this along.

To fix the Senate, you need to make it more proportional to the number of people in the states. The other option would be to get rid of the Senate all together, as it’s undemocratic to begin with.

North Dakota should not get the same power as all of CA. ND is the same population as San Francisco, it’s hard to imagine the original writers of the constitution would have thought that a 50x imbalance of representation would be a good thing.

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Billionares are also against against any sort of criminal consequences and taxes. If you don't like that, you better vote in the next election.

It's sad that people at the next election only have a choice between extending democracy and accepting autocracy. It never really was about policies, but in the last 10 year all discourse about policy seems to have disappeared. All discourse seems to be about perpetually misinformed culture wars.

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UBI's critics expected these programs to have terrible outcomes, where recipients would spend their money on trivialities (or worse: drugs). Instead, what we find is that UBI recipients either spend it on essentials, stuff for their kids children or paying down debt.

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