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Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by tmnvix »

Facemelters wrote: post #6
tiahura wrote: post #5

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lol how can you possibly call our response feeble

Considering how we arrived at this point (Houthis threatening and attacking trade and communications), I would say the US government's obvious inability to rein in its ally (Israel) despite having a huge amount of leverage demonstrates a pretty weak administration.

Feeble is precisely the right word to describe US pressure on Israel. Saying "We've asked them" over and over again just doesn't cut it. It's weak and everyone can see that.

This latest middle east crisis has been hugely damaging to US moral and diplomatic credibility.

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by lwansbrough »

defrost wrote: post #9
nfieidnrn wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he called the president feeble, he’s not wrong

Seems like a systemic US inability to put up anything other than geriatric POTUS candidates. 300+ million citizens and apparently no credible prospect under the age of 70, let alone 60 or 50.

Speaking of which, if they imposed a limit of 70, would anyone bat an eye other than the two guys nobody wants in office?

There’s a minimum age, why not a maximum? Seems like an opportunity to handle this right now as both deeply unpopular front runners would be made ineligible.

I personally don’t mind Joe Biden, he at least comes across as genuine. But I think an opportunity to guarantee both candidates ineligible could be a win for both parties. (But of course both sides think they can win with their guy so they probably aren’t interested.)

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by shiroiushi »

defrost wrote: post #9
nfieidnrn wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he called the president feeble, he’s not wrong

Seems like a systemic US inability to put up anything other than geriatric POTUS candidates. 300+ million citizens and apparently no credible prospect under the age of 70, let alone 60 or 50.

Americans under the age of 70 who are in politics are too crazy to get elected as POTUS (and this really says something with Trump being the bar for craziness), and non-crazy under-70 people are too smart to pursue a career in American politics.

As far as I can tell, Biden is only doing the job because he loves the country and doesn't want it going down in flames with another Trump presidency, and there's honestly no better and electable candidates available on the Dem side (which has long been a problem with Dems anyway; Obama was a big aberration here in that he actually had a lot of charisma and likability).

So yes, I agree the US seems to have a systemic inability to choose better candidates.

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by shiroiushi »

lwansbrough wrote: post #12
defrost wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like a systemic US inability to put up anything other than geriatric POTUS candidates. 300+ million citizens and apparently no credible prospect under the age of 70, let alone 60 or 50.

Speaking of which, if they imposed a limit of 70, would anyone bat an eye other than the two guys nobody wants in office? There’s a minimum age, why not a maximum? Seems like an opportunity to handle this right now as both deeply unpopular front runners would be made ineligible. I personally don’t mind Joe Biden, he at least comes across as genuine. But I think an opportunity to guarantee both candidates ineligible c…

Then we'll end up with some horribly unlikable woman on the Dem side, running against some crazy woman on the Rep side ranting about space lasers.

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by foofie »

tmnvix wrote: post #11
Facemelters wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol how can you possibly call our response feeble

Considering how we arrived at this point (Houthis threatening and attacking trade and communications), I would say the US government's obvious inability to rein in its ally (Israel) despite having a huge amount of leverage demonstrates a pretty weak administration. Feeble is precisely the right word to describe US pressure on Israel. Saying "We've asked them" over and over again just doesn't cut it. It's weak and eve…

> Considering how we arrived at this point (Houthis threatening and attacking trade and communications) (...)

Aren't the Houthis a proxy of Iran who are being used to try to goad the US into a regional conflict?

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by lenkite »

shiroiushi wrote: post #13
defrost wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like a systemic US inability to put up anything other than geriatric POTUS candidates. 300+ million citizens and apparently no credible prospect under the age of 70, let alone 60 or 50.

Americans under the age of 70 who are in politics are too crazy to get elected as POTUS (and this really says something with Trump being the bar for craziness), and non-crazy under-70 people are too smart to pursue a career in American politics. As far as I can tell, Biden is only doing the job because he loves the country and doesn't want it going down in flames with another Trump presidency, and there's honestly no…

Biden is not really the U.S. President at the moment. He is a wooden puppet that signs and says anything that his handlers put in front of him - and that too with extreme difficulty. The U.S. presidency is currently held by a small, powerful governing cabal that consists of folks like Jacob Jeremiah Sullivan along with warmongers like Victoria Nuland. (and her husband - Robert Kagan acting behind the scenes)

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by maccam912 »

lenkite wrote: post #16
shiroiushi wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans under the age of 70 who are in politics are too crazy to get elected as POTUS (and this really says something with Trump being the bar for craziness), and non-crazy under-70 people are too smart to pursue a career in American politics. As far as I can tell, Biden is only doing the job because he loves the country and doesn't want it going down in flames with another Trump presidency, and there's honestly no…

Biden is not really the U.S. President at the moment. He is a wooden puppet that signs and says anything that his handlers put in front of him - and that too with extreme difficulty. The U.S. presidency is currently held by a small, powerful governing cabal that consists of folks like Jacob Jeremiah Sullivan along with warmongers like Victoria Nuland. (and her husband - Robert Kagan acting behind the scenes)

This right here is why there is a divide the size of the Grand Canyon in America. Some will see it as obvious satire, some are 100% convinced this is the truth. When did we reach the point that the same text can be read as fact or satire with such strong conviction that the dress being blue and black (no, it's white and gold!) would seem like compromise?

Re: Houthis knock out underwater cables linking Europe to Asia

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Post by chii »

foofie wrote: post #15
tmnvix wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering how we arrived at this point (Houthis threatening and attacking trade and communications), I would say the US government's obvious inability to rein in its ally (Israel) despite having a huge amount of leverage demonstrates a pretty weak administration. Feeble is precisely the right word to describe US pressure on Israel. Saying "We've asked them" over and over again just doesn't cut it. It's weak and eve…

> Considering how we arrived at this point (Houthis threatening and attacking trade and communications) (...) Aren't the Houthis a proxy of Iran who are being used to try to goad the US into a regional conflict?

> goad the US into a regional conflict?

and by doing so, spread the resources that would've been devoted to ukraine thinner. And by proxy, take attention away from china's regional ambitions.

It's clear that these events aren't happening in isolation.

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