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Mistral Large

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Re: Mistral Large

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Post by pradn »

rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

How is this a problem? So many companies have been founded around premium versions of open-source products. It's good that they've even given us as much as they have. They have to make the economics work somehow.

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Post by HPsquared »

rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

Especially as the model weights are literally a huge opaque binary blob. Much more opaque than even assembly code. There is plenty of precedent for what "open source" means, and these aren't it.

Edit: not that I mind all that much what they're actually doing, it's just the misuse of the word that bristles.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by syntaxing »

Interesting, I didn’t know they had le chat. I’ve been wanting a chatgpt competitor with mistral. Also love the fact they put “le” in front of their products

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by tiahura »

rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

When is someone capable going to take the lead in crowdfunding a Japan-based open ai project?

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by tomkaos »

Larok00 wrote: post #3

There is not a lot of advantage to releasing this on Azure where you are directly competing with GPT-4, which will beat you on most tasks.

You probably get a better control on what a happen with the data. I have the impression that GTP-4 is more of a black box and privacy problem.

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Post by hackerlight »

behnamoh wrote: post #7
rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

I've been saying this for months but every time I get down voted for saying it. It annoys me that people fall for these marketing tactics and keep promoting and advertising the product for free. It's not just the models though- even tools that started off as open source ended up aiming for VC and stopped being totally open. Examples: LlamaIndex, Langchain, and most likely Ollama.

Whoever is lagging will be open source. It's why AMD open sources FSR but Nvidia doesn't do the same for DLSS. There is nothing benevolent about AMD and nothing evil about Nvidia. They are both performing actions that profit maximize given their situation.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by hobofan »

Larok00 wrote: post #3

There is not a lot of advantage to releasing this on Azure where you are directly competing with GPT-4, which will beat you on most tasks.

I would assume that the advantage (for Mistal) here is Microsoft paying them money to be the exclusive model hosting partner, so that everyone has to go to Azure to get top-tier hosted models.

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by m3kw9 »

rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

Always that’s the reason they go open source it’s the freeium model

Re: Mistral Large

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Post by mythz »

rntc wrote: post #2

Looks like open-source is just a marketing tool for AI companies before they have a good enough model to sell. I guess we have to look for what Meta is going to do with LlaMA 3.

What's there to complain about?

For the price of awareness, we get access to high quality LLMs we can run from our laptops.

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