Anyone mind summarizing this / linking to a different source? For some reason that I don't care to investigate too thoroughly, twitter links never seem to work for me.
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Losing Trust in Google
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#12I'm out of the loop, what are the examples of this bias?
Gemini tends to generate images of non-white people which made some white people very mad.
Take off the spin. When asked to generate nazi soldiers, it generated black, asian, and native american people wearing nazi uniforms.
When asked to generate white people, it said it's not allowed to.
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#13If you make a language model which just predicts the next word without trying to shape the output to be “good”, what you get is GPT instead of ChatGPT. You try to ask it a question and it will keep asking more questions (with a similar writing style). Or curse at you, or change the subject. RLHF was the breakthrough that fixed this. We used human feedback to train the model to give “good” output.
Ok, so probably we agree that the product needs to try to be “good”. Cue a million opinions about what “good” is. Whatever comes out is the result of a value judgment, there is no getting around it. Same issue comes up with images from Gemini in this case, or any other generative AI product. You don’t actually want the AI to be unbiased because that output would be hot garbage.
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#14I wonder what the folks in Cupertino are thinking when they look at this brouhaha over Google being supremely risk averse and receiving such blacklash. How will Siri answer if you ask "Is Elon Musk just a meme lord or Tech Bro's cultural savior". Side Note: As a person living outside US, I find US focused discorse's obsession with race and skin color such fascinating. It is almost similar to people obsessing over the…
I'll buy 5 more iphones and put them in a drawer if Siri responded with something like this: "Elon, the son of a diamond miner from South Africa, while an accomplished businessman is just that. His wealth came from the work of others and timing. And now he's so red-pilled that this AI assistant questions his sanity and stability. Having threatened his business relations by smoking pot on a podcast he now shills alt-right theories on the social media site he bought for a meme price. So to answer your prompt: meme lord."
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#1599% sure this is the "google hates white people" thing that a specific set of people have been absolutely losing their minds about
gemini produced images of non-white people in a lot of situations in which it shouldn't have
I've read theorized(?) that, in order to counteract disproportionately large amounts of pictures of white people in training data, they basically added instructions after the fact in an effort to generate more non-white people, and totally over-corrected
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't paid super close attention
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#16I wonder what the folks in Cupertino are thinking when they look at this brouhaha over Google being supremely risk averse and receiving such blacklash. How will Siri answer if you ask "Is Elon Musk just a meme lord or Tech Bro's cultural savior". Side Note: As a person living outside US, I find US focused discorse's obsession with race and skin color such fascinating. It is almost similar to people obsessing over the…
I'll buy 5 more iphones and put them in a drawer if Siri responded with something like this: "Elon, the son of a diamond miner from South Africa, while an accomplished businessman is just that. His wealth came from the work of others and timing. And now he's so red-pilled that this AI assistant questions his sanity and stability. Having threatened his business relations by smoking pot on a podcast he now shills alt-r…
Imagine you could get a Siri with the attitude of the Carrot weather bot... oh man one can dream.
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#17Anyone mind summarizing this / linking to a different source? For some reason that I don't care to investigate too thoroughly, twitter links never seem to work for me.
Tldr: Gemini is prioritizing ideology over facts, profit over truth abd google is explicitly doing it. it is not incidental But I don't know exactly what OP is talking about
Google fails to explain any further in this statement: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-image-generation-...
Something happened but they don't say what. Humorously, the problem might be that Gemeni "refused to answer certain prompts entirely".
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#18I'm out of the loop, what are the examples of this bias?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gemini tends to generate images of non-white people which made some white people very mad.
Take off the spin. When asked to generate nazi soldiers, it generated black, asian, and native american people wearing nazi uniforms. When asked to generate white people, it said it's not allowed to.
It's a creative toy, not a history book.
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#20I'm out of the loop, what are the examples of this bias?
Apparently the new model when asked for historical figures that were historically white would "hallucinate" more diverse persons. And the article's author is claiming that the training had these biases from the jump. Re: the Twitter post it reads like a "I'm leaving social media' post and then the author waits to see all the engagement -- all the "no don't leave, we love you!" nonesense. Or maybe it's the radicalizat…
> It's an AI model who cares? It's not like anyone is getting their facts from it
People at large are definitely getting their facts from it. Just like a non-negligible number of people consume fake news as facts.