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Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#11

Post by Loughla »

CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

I get where you're coming from with the AD on the spacecraft. It's gross to see an ad for a clothing company on the moon.

But, NASA is predominately displayed on all of the original moonshot crafts. That's an advertisement for that organization. . .

And, I'm 100% sure ego had nearly everything to do with the original space race. Beating the Russians and what-not. That seems, in hindsight, to be very ego driven?

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#12

Post by Loughla »

ordu wrote: post #9
CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

Experience is irreproducible. It depends on too many factors, we even don't know the full list of them, and some of them change irreversibly with time passing. You will not be 10 years old anymore. It is not a good reason for a depression, you can experience world now like you couldn't being a 10 year old boy.

Actually one of the absolute best things about having kids, that is not reproducible for no-child lifestyles, is seeing everything for the first time through their eyes.

All the other stuff people say about parenting can be reproduced via service or volunteering or something else. But that experience absolutely is unique.

Magic is real. The world is wild and exciting, and it's all there for that kid. It's amazing to watch and be a part of.

So, while you can never go back to being at 10 year old boy, you absolutely can get a taste of what that's like via adoption or having your own. In my opinion, that is.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#13

Post by alan-hn »

Loughla wrote: post #11
CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

I get where you're coming from with the AD on the spacecraft. It's gross to see an ad for a clothing company on the moon. But, NASA is predominately displayed on all of the original moonshot crafts. That's an advertisement for that organization. . . And, I'm 100% sure ego had nearly everything to do with the original space race. Beating the Russians and what-not. That seems, in hindsight, to be very ego driven?

I think saying "this organization built this craft that went to space" is a bit different than "buy shit from this other company"

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#14

Post by treyd »

Loughla wrote: post #11
CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

I get where you're coming from with the AD on the spacecraft. It's gross to see an ad for a clothing company on the moon. But, NASA is predominately displayed on all of the original moonshot crafts. That's an advertisement for that organization. . . And, I'm 100% sure ego had nearly everything to do with the original space race. Beating the Russians and what-not. That seems, in hindsight, to be very ego driven?

It's about self-identification not advertisement. And NASA isn't a privately-owned for-profit corporation. It's like putting "US NAVY" on a battleship, except instead it's a vehicle furthering mankind's technological development.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#15

Post by vardump »

ethbr1 wrote: post #3

Curious question: as a private company, how do you determine your lunar orbit parameters after a burn? Are they leveraging Earth/orbit-based radar? Or satellites around the moon? Or something else?

Maybe star (and moon/earth) tracking and radio signals to earth?

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#16

Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

This feels unnecessary cynical. I could understand if the spacecraft said "Drink Ovaltine" or something else just advertising with paid placement, but the brand marks on it are just highlighting the organizations the actually built the thing. I was originally confused/skeptical about Columbia, but they did actually contribute to the design and construction of the lander, even if this press release is a little puffed up: https://investor.columbia.com/news-events/press-releases/det....

Also, you say "It's all just egos and entertainment now." What do you think it was in 1969? Is "beat the Russians" somehow a more noble goal than "sell a product"?

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#17

Post by ordu »

Loughla wrote: post #12
ordu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Experience is irreproducible. It depends on too many factors, we even don't know the full list of them, and some of them change irreversibly with time passing. You will not be 10 years old anymore. It is not a good reason for a depression, you can experience world now like you couldn't being a 10 year old boy.

Actually one of the absolute best things about having kids, that is not reproducible for no-child lifestyles, is seeing everything for the first time through their eyes. All the other stuff people say about parenting can be reproduced via service or volunteering or something else. But that experience absolutely is unique. Magic is real. The world is wild and exciting, and it's all there for that kid. It's amazing to…

Ahh yes, empathy can give us experiences we are unable to get ourselves.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#18

Post by dylan604 »

ethbr1 wrote: post #3

Curious question: as a private company, how do you determine your lunar orbit parameters after a burn? Are they leveraging Earth/orbit-based radar? Or satellites around the moon? Or something else?

I don't understand the "as a private company" qualifier. The math is the same, and doesn't care if it's private/public.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#19

Post by dylan604 »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #16
CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

This feels unnecessary cynical. I could understand if the spacecraft said "Drink Ovaltine" or something else just advertising with paid placement, but the brand marks on it are just highlighting the organizations the actually built the thing . I was originally confused/skeptical about Columbia, but they did actually contribute to the design and construction of the lander, even if this press release is a little puffed…

Eventually, spacecraft will look like a NASCAR paint job.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

#20

Post by austinjp »

simmonmt wrote: post #10
CartyBoston wrote: post #4

The spacecraft has an ad prominently displayed on itself, it's depressing. We will never reproduce the experience of 10 year old me watching the moon landing with my dad. It's all just egos and entertainment now.

How dare they attempt to defray their costs.

How dare they put an ad on the moon.

We are truly spreading the worst of humanity into the cosmos. Good job it's only us that appear able to witness it.

Defraying costs by using ads is a strawman. If you can't afford to do something, maybe don't do it. If you really, really want to do it, maybe ask yourself if the world genuinely needs what you're doing. If it does, find a way. If the only way you can do it is by selling advertising, you've taken as mis-step.

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