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Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Post by ninetyninenine »

martinky24 wrote: post #7
ninetyninenine wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh he might be right. I would listen to his ideas dispassionately. Many geniuses who were right were ridiculed.

For every genius who was right and ridiculed, and celebrated accordingly, there are many people who were wrong and ridiculed, and forgotten accordingly.

Those that were forgotten may be right too.

I would still listen dispassionately. He's smarter than most people on this thread, that's for sure.

Being logical is ridiculing someone for being wrong, not for being full of himself. Many geniuses were ass holes.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Post by max_ »

I love Stephen Wolfram so much that I may even consider him a role model.

I understand the need for the masses to have people ideas that are obviously practical.

Stephen Wolfram is more of an explore. And he is documenting phenomena that I don't see any one else doing because everyone else is so teleological.

I think we need to give a break to researchers doing this original non teleological research.

I don't understand why people find him "insufferable"?

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Post by moelf »

jack_riminton wrote: post #9

Somehow people who are most convinced of their genius are the least interesting to me. Contrast with Roger Penrose and you couldn't meet a more humble, interesting and interested conversationalist

idk which is more cringeworth, Wolfram's computational reality https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/physicists-critic...

or Penrose's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchestrated_objective_reducti...

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Post by aeonik »

martinky24 wrote: post #7
ninetyninenine wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh he might be right. I would listen to his ideas dispassionately. Many geniuses who were right were ridiculed.

For every genius who was right and ridiculed, and celebrated accordingly, there are many people who were wrong and ridiculed, and forgotten accordingly.

His work is definitely worthwhile. Wolfram Language by itself is actually very cool. I really wish he would open source it. I'm not going to use any math package that isn't open source for anything.

I think his physics work is pretty interesting as well.

I think the reason he aggrandizes, and this is only speculation, is because he is pushing the envelope in many fields simultaneously and wants to "credentialize" himself, and give people context on his background.

He might also be insecure self-absorbed. Which, while annoying, doesn't disqualify someone's ideas by itself. It just means you might need to watch for ego-based confabulations in their work.

It might also mean he's a pain to work with, if it is indeed an ego thing. But I don't know the guy... so it's all speculation.

Re: Stephen Wolfram – 4-Hour Conversational Documentary on My Entire Arc of Life [video]

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Post by jcgrillo »

max_ wrote: post #12

I love Stephen Wolfram so much that I may even consider him a role model. I understand the need for the masses to have people ideas that are obviously practical. Stephen Wolfram is more of an explore. And he is documenting phenomena that I don't see any one else doing because everyone else is so teleological. I think we need to give a break to researchers doing this original non teleological research. I don't underst…

Here's one example: http://bactra.org/weblog/915.html

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Post by azinman2 »

max_ wrote: post #12

I love Stephen Wolfram so much that I may even consider him a role model. I understand the need for the masses to have people ideas that are obviously practical. Stephen Wolfram is more of an explore. And he is documenting phenomena that I don't see any one else doing because everyone else is so teleological. I think we need to give a break to researchers doing this original non teleological research. I don't underst…

He posted a 4hr video on talking about his life. He always comes off with hubris and self-importance… that’s a big turn off.
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