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Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

Sure, but if someone wants to use a Vision Pro for both work and non-work, having two of them is a bit steep.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Apple had to lock down iOS in 17.4 because enough people were being tricked into entering their passcode by a thief who in turn would steal the device, access their passwords and drain their bank accounts. So not sure that allowing pairing between different accounts and relying on a passcode for security is going to be that secure.

Honestly the real problem with security is the whole passcode -> Face ID -> passcode flow.

It is relatively easy for someone to see the passcode that unlocks my phone, in one way or another.

All of my banking apps are locked behind Face ID. But if you lock an app with Face ID, you can just override with the phones passcode. This is dumb.

The app Face ID backup passcode should be separate from the device unlock passcode, or that should at least be an option. Maybe I'm at a party and I want someone to be able to unlock my phone to use Spotify, but I don't want to also give them access to all my banking apps.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

Employers could be free to restrict use of such devices via MDM policy if they wanted.

Also, how many of us have purchased keyboards, mice, displays, headphones, etc with our own money that we happily use with employer owned computers because it’s safe to do so?

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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post #10

Apple had to lock down iOS in 17.4 because enough people were being tricked into entering their passcode by a thief who in turn would steal the device, access their passwords and drain their bank accounts. So not sure that allowing pairing between different accounts and relying on a passcode for security is going to be that secure.

Consider the setup process for the Apple TV. The TV shows a unique one-time-use QR code-like pattern that you can scan with the camera of an iOS device. Surely something like this would be sufficient for pairing a Vision Pro with a Mac. Also the security implications of encouraging people to add their personal Apple ID to devices they don’t own are, IMO, worse.

I'm being more cynical and assuming it's probably to do with AirPlay screen-mirroring encryption and how tying everything to the same Apple ID account placates Hollywood's technophobic licensing execs.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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post #4

Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id. Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re bein…

I don’t understand the downvotes to this comment. Obviously you can disagree, but it’s the obvious question in response to lots of commenters implying this isn’t possible.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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post #6
post #4

Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id. Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re bein…

Never ever ever mix personal and professional anything, for that way lies hell and tragedy.

The truth is, as usual, probably somewhere in the middle.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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post #4

Who are these companies that either require a non-personal Apple Id or forbid a personal Apple Id? I’ve worked for startups and multinationals and never had an issue with my work machine allowing a personal Apple Id. Obviously I have to be personally ok with allowing work possible access to my Apple Id, but for me it’s an acceptable trade off given that they have access to everything I say on Slack, and if we’re bein…

My employer requires you to use a work Apple ID if you use an Apple ID (optional for just MacBook, required if you have a work iPhone). I think it's perfectly reasonable - I don't want my personal Apple ID intermingled with my work computer.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

> their employer should issue one

iPad is not in the list of "standard" hardware for my company (with thousands of developers and a good balance sheet). Good luck getting that approved as an exception.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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post #11

This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

Sure, but if someone wants to use a Vision Pro for both work and non-work, having two of them is a bit steep.

To elaborate, personally I draw the line at peripherals. I do try to use different devices for work and not-work, but I use the same monitor+keyboard+mouse+headphones (and desk, and chair...) for both.

The Vision Pro is a weird middle ground of device and peripheral. When it's operating as a virtual display it's more of a peripheral, and it'd be nice if it acted more like one.

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