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Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

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Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#11
Let's say I want to make a little dashboard for a home server that I can view on my iPhone in full screen. If I live in the EU, how am I supposed to add it to my home screen?

I can't put it on the App Store even if I wanted to - it's for a local server so it won't pass review.

I can't just use a local debug build - those expire after a week or so.

What can I even do here?

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#12

It always leaves a sour taste hearing him say that. While he is undoubtedly 100% right, we all know he's not saying it because he cares about a free market. He only cares because it's eating up his share of the profit. Why can't we have other people at the forefront of this than billionaires?

People are often right for wrong reasons. Telling they are right there doesn’t imply we are on their team (although such accusations are far too common).

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#13
Does Apple think its shenanigans are going to precipitate a backlash against EU regulation?

Because every time I read about a new round of BS my blood boils and my attitude against Apple and other huge anticompetitive corporates just hardens.

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#14
The PWA was all but ready to compete directly with apps and in a decentralized way. The world was excited with Apple finally supporting web push notifications.

Apple ended this excitement recently with this news.

Tis a sad day for decentralization and the un censorship of mobile.

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#15
post #3

There must be people sitting at Apple HQ whose task it is to come up with ways to screw their customers. I love it.

Only the executives. The lower down managers are focused more on screwing the employees.

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#16
I wish all of these folks complaining about Apple would go on strike and stop developing stuff on their hardware instead of whining. Even better if they could make their own hardware without any of the supposed baggage with the software. A lot of these companies whining are worth billions so they can afford it.

Of course, they won’t because they want money just like Apple, but if Spotify, epic etc stopped working on iOS devices Apple would consider changing their behavior.

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#17

It always leaves a sour taste hearing him say that. While he is undoubtedly 100% right, we all know he's not saying it because he cares about a free market. He only cares because it's eating up his share of the profit. Why can't we have other people at the forefront of this than billionaires?

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Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#18

Does Apple think its shenanigans are going to precipitate a backlash against EU regulation? Because every time I read about a new round of BS my blood boils and my attitude against Apple and other huge anticompetitive corporates just hardens.

Apple is a shitty company that makes very good products and has very good marketing (which has basically ensorcelled a lot of people to reduce their judgment)

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#19
post #11

Let's say I want to make a little dashboard for a home server that I can view on my iPhone in full screen. If I live in the EU, how am I supposed to add it to my home screen? I can't put it on the App Store even if I wanted to - it's for a local server so it won't pass review. I can't just use a local debug build - those expire after a week or so. What can I even do here?

Open it up in safari and forgo full screen - add a header so you can scroll slightly and it’s 98% full screen.

The real solution is to stop using Apple products and use android which can do what you’re asking trivially.

Re: Apple broke iPhone web apps in the EU for anticompetitive reasons – Tim Sweeney

#20

He's right. Apple has been strangling web app progress on iOS for many years. They wanted to ensure that web apps could never compete with native apps on the App Store, because they can extract their 30% fee. Now that Apple are forced to permit third party browser engines, web apps would suddenly be a lot more powerful. Apple just won't have that, so they're disabling a useful feature for everyone. I think this will…

As much as I would love to agree, the general population really does not care about features like "home screen web apps". Nobody outside of HN even knows what they are.

Everyone just goes on the app store and downloads random website app. Even if it is just a browser app that renders a website.

Apple would have to eliminate something that people actually care about for any boycott Apple to happen.

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