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Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

Neat, you get to have the fun organic chemicals inside you, the ones that are probably worse because they are "organic"

Why are they probably worse?

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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> Compared to these previous studies in Europe, the median levels measured in our study of U.S. samples from 2017 to 2022 were lower, while the median level in 2023 samples were comparable to samples from Sweden, and lower than UK samples

> Current chlormequat concentrations in urine from this study and others suggest that individual sample donors were exposed to chlormequat at levels several orders of magnitude below the reference dose (RfD) published by the U.S. EPA (0.05 mg/kg bw/day) and the acceptable daily intake (ADI) value published by the European Food Safety Authority (0.04 mg/kg bw/day).

My two takeaways. The main source in the US seems to be from import and it's several magnitudes lower than acceptable daily intake. This might obviously change, but still reasonable to keep in mind.

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

Organic may not be much better, as many of the chemicals approved for organic crops are even worse. So, yes, regulation has failed. Good luck holding anyone accountable.

A friend of mine owns / operates a few hundred acre certified organic Avocado ranch in Carpinteria, CA. He explained to me it's mostly just paperwork and the organic pesticides / fertilizers are just as, if not more, gnarly than the non-organic ones. He said it just makes people feel good and there is virtually zero difference. Obviously a single source but one I hold very credible.

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Another reminder that most food produced by industrial processes is poisoning us. News of this chemical’s prevalence may be news, but the general story is not. Yet nothing has changed, nor should anyone expect otherwise. Big Ag achieved regulatory capture and can afford to delay indefinitely (if not outright stop) any meaningful change from happening.

I fail to understand why you're getting downloaded and I hope some of those who did will explain.

"Don't ask how the sausage is made" predates any of us still alive by a fair margin

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next hundred years is probably going to be grappling with how many toxic chemicals we allowed at 'safe' levels because it was inconvenient to industry to ban them the same way we're floored by the casual irradiation of the early 20th century.

Think of the shareholder value though. /s People are going to scream about the cost of remediating all of this (hundreds of billions, if not trillions), but it was just shareholders through limited liability corporations stealing from taxpayers (who will end up with the remediation bill through taxes) by way of the market and government, with enormous aggregate harm a second order effect. So long, and thanks for all…

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Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

It’s not used on plants intended for human or animal consumption.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has released for public comment its proposed decision to register the first food uses of the pesticide chlormequat chloride to provide farmers with an additional tool to help increase crop yield. Before registering these uses, EPA will need to establish tolerances in or on barley, oat, triticale, and wheat. https://www.epa.gov/pesticides/epa-proposes-register-new-use...

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

It’s not used on plants intended for human or animal consumption.

It is allowed on food crops in Canada and the European Union. The US in 2018 removed it from being barred on import products, which really opened up its use in industries targeting exports to the US. So the US rise in this chemical is almost certainly due to Canadian products.

Which is such an incredible shame for my country, Canada. It is shameful how often we trade risks to human health for minor production benefits. Canada and the US produce vastly more food than they consume, so the arguments about the necessity to push production efficiency at the cost of health is a non-starter.

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Body burning screening for toxic chemical accumulation should be a regular part of every American's yearly physical checkup with their doctor - which itself is an increasingly rare phenomenon, many people only go to doctors and hospitals after getting very sick as they can't afford to have a regular doctor or preventative health program. A body burden program would lead to the identification of the most problematic industrial and agricultural chemical products, and so it would be blocked by lobbyists from the fossil fuel, petrochemical, agribusiness, and manufacturing sectors.

America has the worst public health care / food safety system in the industrialized world, and not even a pandemic that killed over a million American citizens resulted in any political pressure to change the system.

Re: Chlormequat in food and urine from adults in the United States from 2017 to 2023

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Well this is making me think about switching to organic only grains. Feels like a bit of a regulatory failure.

It’s not used on plants intended for human or animal consumption.

Exactly. Humans don't eat grain, right?
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