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Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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From the article: >Raichik posted that the school offers a “pornographic” book in its library that “teaches kids about gay sex.”

I read the article. Claiming thst something is inappropriate is not the same as claiming it's pedophilic.

Hence "or something"

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #4
post #2

Don’t they just repost what other people are already posting publicly?

To be more pointed than logicprog, Raichik just lies a lot. Example from the article: Libs of TikTok’s post said it happened “in front of children.” Anthony said no children were present.

That is simply “he said, she said”.

One person is lying, but we don’t know which.

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

#13
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the article: >Raichik posted that the school offers a “pornographic” book in its library that “teaches kids about gay sex.”

I read the article. Claiming thst something is inappropriate is not the same as claiming it's pedophilic.

Also in the article

> Libs of TikTok’s post said it happened “in front of children.” Anthony said no children were present. He was clothed and laughing in the video.

I suppose if your point is that “if they don’t say the word pedophile they are not insinuating anything to that effect” then you are correct. If insinuation is not something that exists, the argument that there is no connection between the libsoftiktok posts and the bomb threats makes sense.

From this article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lgbtq-book-bans-librarian-vir...

> Libs of TikTok claimed that I was a pedophile and a groomer for trying to get my students to read.

These examples are not hard to find

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #5

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To a specific audience that they have cultivated, though. And almost universally with a highly specific framing. What they are doing is finding posts from queer children, teachers, or parents, adding a line that frames it as inherently pedophilic or something, and then posting it to their extremely large follower base of explicitly bigoted people that would not probably have been aware of the post otherwise . Those p…

> What they are doing is finding posts from queer children, teachers, or parents, adding a line that frames it as inherently pedophilic or something Can you provide some examples of this? "Pedophilic or something" is pretty open-ended.

Sure. Her main bread and butter is taking video clips out of context to try to prove that trans kids are the victims of "parents with munchausen's by proxy" and "doctors who want to experiment on innocent children", and that queer people just existing in the world around kids is somehow inherently "grooming" them, as well as that queer teachers are grooming kids, that suicide prevention hotlines for trans kids are grooming them, that lgbtq aid organizations for kids are grooming them, etc. This article covers the basics but it is so much more extensive: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/04/chaya-raichik-li.... Just go look at her substack.

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #2

Don’t they just repost what other people are already posting publicly?

To a specific audience that they have cultivated, though. And almost universally with a highly specific framing. What they are doing is finding posts from queer children, teachers, or parents, adding a line that frames it as inherently pedophilic or something, and then posting it to their extremely large follower base of explicitly bigoted people that would not probably have been aware of the post otherwise . Those p…

That's a lot of words. They repost without editing material submitted to the most popular social media sites in the world. The original posters are literally getting wider exposure: exactly what they wanted.

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #4
post #2

Don’t they just repost what other people are already posting publicly?

To be more pointed than logicprog, Raichik just lies a lot. Example from the article: Libs of TikTok’s post said it happened “in front of children.” Anthony said no children were present.

I looked this up. Raichik's tweet links to a blog post. The first paragraph ends with "And kids were reportedly present."

Further down, there are pictures of the event with the caption:

> Feel free to take a look at other photos from the drag show fundraiser, where at least one child is pictured.

Based on this, I don't think it's a slam-dunk case of her lying. It's possible that a child was present at some point but not for the spanking.

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #10
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be more pointed than logicprog, Raichik just lies a lot. Example from the article: Libs of TikTok’s post said it happened “in front of children.” Anthony said no children were present.

Interesting that you immediately just assumed it's Raichik lying rather than Anthony, who is a politician after all.

Yeah because she has an extensive history of taking things completely out of context, distorting them, and outright lying about them, as well as a stated belief that clear people and organizations are inherently groomers regardless of the context or evidence, like when she accused the Trevor Project of Grooming kids. So even by her own admission she would call things grooming that no reasonable person would, so if we are presented with a case where she is calling something grooming and other people are saying that it isn't, it would be directly in line with everything she's said in the past for it to not be.

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To a specific audience that they have cultivated, though. And almost universally with a highly specific framing. What they are doing is finding posts from queer children, teachers, or parents, adding a line that frames it as inherently pedophilic or something, and then posting it to their extremely large follower base of explicitly bigoted people that would not probably have been aware of the post otherwise . Those p…

> What they are doing is finding posts from queer children, teachers, or parents, adding a line that frames it as inherently pedophilic or something Can you provide some examples of this? "Pedophilic or something" is pretty open-ended.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/02/lgbtq-t...

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

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post #11
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the article. Claiming thst something is inappropriate is not the same as claiming it's pedophilic.

Hence "or something"

My point is specifically that saying "pedophilia or something" is disingenuous. "Or something" could be completely innocuous.

Re: After Libs of TikTok posted, at least 21 bomb threats followed

#20
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the article. Claiming thst something is inappropriate is not the same as claiming it's pedophilic.

Also in the article > Libs of TikTok’s post said it happened “in front of children.” Anthony said no children were present. He was clothed and laughing in the video. I suppose if your point is that “if they don’t say the word pedophile they are not insinuating anything to that effect” then you are correct. If insinuation is not something that exists, the argument that there is no connection between the libsoftiktok p…

Again, that is not the same as claiming the mayor or any participants are pedophiles.

As far as children being present, see my comment elsewhere: https://news.ycombinator.com/context?id=39293774

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