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Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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Re: Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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1) whataboutism 2) citation needed 3) Even if both sides utilize propaganda, historically the scale of agitprop coming from authoritarian countries has been much greater. This is still newsworthy. You can't even read most Western propaganda in China because the government goes to great lengths to censor narratives counter to offical views.

Depends how narrowly you define agitprop. If you consider everything that comes out of the American media/news conglomerates as propaganda, then it's orders of magnitude greater than the efforts of China or Russia.

Re: Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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I visited one of those sites, https://sevillatimes.com/ , and absolutely none of the articles posted there talk about the city, not even about the country where the city is in. So nobody would think that website is a local news website. Also this article offers little to no proof that the Chinese government is behind these sites. They look more like a network of crypto spam. https://sevillatimes.com/category/presione…

I think they are not trying to target Spain but rather some country in Latin America, possibly Colombia. Weird enough, all their news seem to be reposted from a Dominican newspaper but there is no Sevilla there. Maybe they thought it was close enough.

Re: Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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1) whataboutism 2) citation needed 3) Even if both sides utilize propaganda, historically the scale of agitprop coming from authoritarian countries has been much greater. This is still newsworthy. You can't even read most Western propaganda in China because the government goes to great lengths to censor narratives counter to offical views.

1) Do not hide behind "whataboutism"

2) CIA

3) Citation needed

Re: Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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1) whataboutism 2) citation needed 3) Even if both sides utilize propaganda, historically the scale of agitprop coming from authoritarian countries has been much greater. This is still newsworthy. You can't even read most Western propaganda in China because the government goes to great lengths to censor narratives counter to offical views.

Whataboutism: a smear word used to imply that hypocrisy is irrelevant. It isn't.

Re: Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) whataboutism 2) citation needed 3) Even if both sides utilize propaganda, historically the scale of agitprop coming from authoritarian countries has been much greater. This is still newsworthy. You can't even read most Western propaganda in China because the government goes to great lengths to censor narratives counter to offical views.

Depends how narrowly you define agitprop. If you consider everything that comes out of the American media/news conglomerates as propaganda, then it's orders of magnitude greater than the efforts of China or Russia.

and Hollywood. And Facebook. And X

Re: Paperwall: Chinese websites posing as local news outlets target global audiences

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What is up with the font rendering on this website? It looks terrible at default zoom (100%), looks fine if I change it to 90% or 110%. Chrome 120.0.6099.200 on Windows 11. Screenshot at 100% zoom: https://i.imgur.com/X7bN7hT.png

> Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—e.g. article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. They're too common to be interesting.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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