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Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by dylan604 »

MBCook wrote: post #7
kxrm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> who is actively developing using jQuery? Yea same, I am actively trying to get rid of jQuery, but my guess would be people get used to working with a tool and there just isn't enough desire or a business case to get rid of it as it would require a rewrite. I would say that I doubt new projects are starting with jQuery but I know there are devs out there that know the jQuery way better than the vanilla javascript wa…

But if you don’t want to get rid of it for business reasons, which I get, a major upgrade that changes a bunch of APIs and drops features would still require a lot of work. And if you’re forced to leave 3.x over security or something (may happen in the future) then why not just move off then?

I'd imagine upgrading from JQuery 3.x to 4.0 will be much less hassle than starting from essentially a blank page even if you were using some of the deprecated methods (even though you've previously been warned).

Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by kxrm »

MBCook wrote: post #7
kxrm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> who is actively developing using jQuery? Yea same, I am actively trying to get rid of jQuery, but my guess would be people get used to working with a tool and there just isn't enough desire or a business case to get rid of it as it would require a rewrite. I would say that I doubt new projects are starting with jQuery but I know there are devs out there that know the jQuery way better than the vanilla javascript wa…

But if you don’t want to get rid of it for business reasons, which I get, a major upgrade that changes a bunch of APIs and drops features would still require a lot of work. And if you’re forced to leave 3.x over security or something (may happen in the future) then why not just move off then?

Yea, see the last half of my comment. There is a lot of legacy knowledge around how jQuery handles things and there are devs out there who just aren't interested in learning how to do it without jQuery.

For their customers and users, it makes no difference.

Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by lakpan »

dylan604 wrote: post #8
voidwtf wrote: post #2

In a world where many of us are actively trying to remove the last vestiges of jQuery, who is actively developing using jQuery? Genuinely curious. I’ve found that most of what I went to jQuery before is baked in now. querySelectorAll being the most powerful.

Because I'm old and new tricks are less interesting, I find $.ajax() much more simple than promise, await, async of native JS. I have used straight native JS on a couple of smaller personal projects just to get some familiarity with it. However, it's just muscle memory type of getting stuff done with $.ajax() for me. Also, maybe 20 people use any of the code I write for manipulating DOM. I'm not a UI person. I'm a ba…

It’s only simpler because you know how to use it. For most use cases fetch and async/await is just easier.

Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by sublinear »

voidwtf wrote: post #2

In a world where many of us are actively trying to remove the last vestiges of jQuery, who is actively developing using jQuery? Genuinely curious. I’ve found that most of what I went to jQuery before is baked in now. querySelectorAll being the most powerful.

There are plenty of legacy web projects still using jQuery that nobody has been able to replace.

Off the top of my head I'm thinking of complex boring stuff like WCAG-compliant carousels or whatever. The kind of libraries people tend to reach for because marketing wanted them, but are otherwise ignored.

Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by ahmedfromtunis »

voidwtf wrote: post #2

In a world where many of us are actively trying to remove the last vestiges of jQuery, who is actively developing using jQuery? Genuinely curious. I’ve found that most of what I went to jQuery before is baked in now. querySelectorAll being the most powerful.

Django uses jQuery for its admin interface. (That is, jQuery is used by the Django maintainers to write the built-in admin interface.)

But I also know that a lot of the "low-cost" agencies are still using it. Probably because de the devs are used to using and don't want to bother to (re)learn things.

At least in my country, a lot of website are still using it (and very old, outdated versions at that).

Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by notso411 »

sibit wrote: post #10
OccamsMirror wrote: post #3

With browsers having much better support with DOM selection, why would anyone be using jQuery in 2024? Not trying to throw shade, I actually think it's cool that it's still being worked on. But I'm confused as to what the use case is.

Legacy projects? I maintain an old .NET web app that's ~15 years old and runs on jQuery. While the dream of refactoring or rewriting the entire thing using something more modern (like Web Components) is nice we're never gonna do it.

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Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by technojunkie »

For those of you who are curious what drives jQuery in 2024 and beyond, you need to remember that WordPress is still more than 1/3 of the web, and the majority of installations and so many plugins critically rely on jQuery. Yes, seriously.

Any advances to removing deprecated APIs or functions are great. jQuery will probably be around dominantly on the web for years to come.

Re: jQuery v4.0 Beta

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Post by notso411 »

lawgimenez wrote: post #6
voidwtf wrote: post #2

In a world where many of us are actively trying to remove the last vestiges of jQuery, who is actively developing using jQuery? Genuinely curious. I’ve found that most of what I went to jQuery before is baked in now. querySelectorAll being the most powerful.

Based on last year’s Stack survey, JQuery is the third popular. https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#section-most-popular-t...

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