Everyone centralizing in Github is very, very unhealthy and fragile.
Let me guess, we need a fediverse solution or source code now?
Maybe not, but this is a decent time to remind everyone to local-cache all your dependencies.
Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
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Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#12Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#13Everyone centralizing in Github is very, very unhealthy and fragile.
There have been at least a few truly decentralized efforts along the lines of GitHub. There is almost no interest. I also feel that just going with one or two other companies is better than exactly one monopoly but we can do much better. For some reason if I say p2p on HN it's not appreciated.
The issue is more that p2p is always touted as the solution and yet there's been almost zero actually useful solutions developed. There's some fundamental issues preventing the decentralized network to be a generic solution and until that's sorted out, it doesn't seem to add to a conversation to bring up p2p as a solution.
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#14This is one of my nightmares... I have 800+ repos on GitHub and I dread the thought of some weird machine learning algorithm somewhere deciding that my account should be banned.
A lot of the stuff I care about on there is backed up elsewhere, but not everything. I even have a tool for this: https://datasette.io/tools/github-to-sqlite - which exports issues, issue comments etc to a SQLite database via the GitHub API.
I do at least trust GitHub not to delete everything, but to instead put my account in some kind of soft-deleted state - and I'm reasonably confident I could get it reinstated via my network. But still, scary.
Why do I have everything on GitHub? Because I genuinely do trust them - they have a 15+ year track record of NOT breaking, and I know that my repos are backed up to three different continents automatically.
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been at least a few truly decentralized efforts along the lines of GitHub. There is almost no interest. I also feel that just going with one or two other companies is better than exactly one monopoly but we can do much better. For some reason if I say p2p on HN it's not appreciated.
The issue is more that p2p is always touted as the solution and yet there's been almost zero actually useful solutions developed. There's some fundamental issues preventing the decentralized network to be a generic solution and until that's sorted out, it doesn't seem to add to a conversation to bring up p2p as a solution.
The issues clearly aren't fundamental enough to stop software pirates or the Onion network.
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#16calm down its already back
If it happens to you:
1. Remain calm
2. Tweet at your 66k followers
3. Briefly wait while the dozens of those that work at GitHub trip over each other getting your account reactivated
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been at least a few truly decentralized efforts along the lines of GitHub. There is almost no interest. I also feel that just going with one or two other companies is better than exactly one monopoly but we can do much better. For some reason if I say p2p on HN it's not appreciated.
The issue is more that p2p is always touted as the solution and yet there's been almost zero actually useful solutions developed. There's some fundamental issues preventing the decentralized network to be a generic solution and until that's sorted out, it doesn't seem to add to a conversation to bring up p2p as a solution.
There are multiple useful solutions. They are just ignored.
Notice you didn't mention any fundamental issue specifically.
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been at least a few truly decentralized efforts along the lines of GitHub. There is almost no interest. I also feel that just going with one or two other companies is better than exactly one monopoly but we can do much better. For some reason if I say p2p on HN it's not appreciated.
The issue is more that p2p is always touted as the solution and yet there's been almost zero actually useful solutions developed. There's some fundamental issues preventing the decentralized network to be a generic solution and until that's sorted out, it doesn't seem to add to a conversation to bring up p2p as a solution.
Git seems to work pretty well p2p without the hub.
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#19Everyone centralizing in Github is very, very unhealthy and fragile.
I get losing your PRs and comments, and pipelines. But if you get banned from Github, can't you just pick different remote and keep rolling?
If it's about the PRs and comments, and pipelines, then those are features specific to Github so where is the fault for acting unhealthy?
Re: Chris Wanstrath "defunkt" GitHub cofounder and former CEO is banned on GitHub
#20Everyone centralizing in Github is very, very unhealthy and fragile.
Let me guess, we need a fediverse solution or source code now?
Git is already decentralized. So no, we don't need a fediverse equivalent. Crazy idea, but what if you hosted your code on your infrastructure, like the "old days"? Or, move to an independent forge, or stay where you are. The concern isn't about GitHub directly, but that everyone storing all their source code in one place is concerning.
Git is flexible. I'm kind of surprised at how ubiquitous GitHub is given how easy it is to host your own repositories and set up a mailing list to accept patches and discussion on.