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Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by gambiting » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:36 AM UTC

Arbortheus wrote: post #7

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

If you can afford it, get Miele or specifically the Bosch models that are made in Germany (many lower-end Bosch models are contracted out to e.g. Turkey, and not quite as good).

Exactly - Miele, or Bosch Series 6 or 8 are usually made in Germany with longer warranty. And Siemens(which is just rebranded bosch nowadays, usually with even better finish and longer warranty).

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by polskibus » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:38 AM UTC

Arbortheus wrote: post #7

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

If you can afford it, get Miele or specifically the Bosch models that are made in Germany (many lower-end Bosch models are contracted out to e.g. Turkey, and not quite as good).

Siemens is same as Bosch, incl factories. But yeah look whether an appliance was made in EU or outside.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by zx8080 » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:39 AM UTC

Kluggy wrote: post #2

We have a fancy Samsung fridge with display. I was livid the first day I woke up and entered the kitchen and there was a full screen ad on the display greeting me pre-coffee. I vowed to never buy another fancy appliance again and took it off the WiFi network.

I wonder would disabling a network raises its chances to need some repairs?

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by pcammeraat » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:39 AM UTC

Arbortheus wrote: post #7

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

If you can afford it, get Miele or specifically the Bosch models that are made in Germany (many lower-end Bosch models are contracted out to e.g. Turkey, and not quite as good).

Second vote for Miele. They work for decades.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by blondin » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:41 AM UTC

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

stay away from samsung fridges too.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by billti » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:44 AM UTC

Rapzid wrote: post #10

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

My GE dishwasher made it about 4 years and my range hood just under 6(needs a new blower due to spun bearing now and it was never sealed well). Garbage. But the first year service rate for even high end dishwashers is very high(over 10%!). Got a Bosch and got lucky so far but it still feels like luck..

Likewise. GE dishwasher got a fault after a couple years and spewed water everywhere. Got a Bosch and never had a problem in about 8 years now. It cleans way better too. Simple, reliable, looks and works great.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:45 AM UTC

pigeonhole123 wrote: post #8

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

Liebherr has been good to me. They also make industrial machinery so maybe that culture transfers over internally in the company.

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Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by josho » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:45 AM UTC

Rapzid wrote: post #10

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

My GE dishwasher made it about 4 years and my range hood just under 6(needs a new blower due to spun bearing now and it was never sealed well). Garbage. But the first year service rate for even high end dishwashers is very high(over 10%!). Got a Bosch and got lucky so far but it still feels like luck..

I have a 10 year old Bosch. A part recently failed. I repaired it myself. During the repair I noticed that this thing was built for repairability. The parts manual is available online. The company seems to take an interest in quality.

I just can’t say the same over the other appliance brands in my house.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by lozenge » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:45 AM UTC

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

I'm not so sure about Miele. I looked at their washer dryers recently and there were a lot of complaints about TwinDos. I would say keep it simple and don't extend to features you wouldn't normally expect just because a manufacturer is offering it.

Re: Goodbye non-KISS appliances

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Post by stephen_g » Sat, Feb 03, 2024, 7:46 AM UTC

msadowski wrote: post #5

I’m about to buy all the appliances to a new place in Europe and could use some more horror stories and learn which brands to avoid. So far I’ve been told to stay away from Samsung ovens. Anyone has any regrets on appliances?

I've been happy with my Electrolux fridge (it's only seven years old but literally zero maintenance in that time and it's still working like a champ), which I bought because my parents were happy with theirs which they'd bought five or six years before I got mine. Theirs is still going well too.

My washing machine is a Bosch series 8 which has also been really good, same age, no problems.