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I also hacked my car

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Re: I also hacked my car

#13
> The core OS appears to be from GENIVI/COVESA (GitHub: GENIVI/COVESA). I'm not familiar with these systems at all. They have a fair bit of open-source stuff that will probably explore in the future.

In a prior role I got to engage on a number of GENIVI projects. GENIVI was/is a consortium of Auto makers and 1st-tier companies that determine standards for automotive IVI (In-Vehicle Infotainment). I got to work on some demonstration projects that were proof-of-concept for the standards. IIRC, we were implementing them on the Automotive-Grade Linux distribution. It was a really exciting time. I legitimately thought that there might be a future for a standard (or at least a couple of standard) infotainment systems.

Fun stuff. FWIW, I sort of thought of GENIVI as the European standards group, whereas AGL seemed largely funded and driven by the Asian Automakers. But that's my narrow viewpoint.

Re: I also hacked my car

#14

Awesome post! When will we be able to operate our car without it spying on us? Will we eventually be able to turn off the "phoning home" function/part?

Remember to remove the TPMS sensors from your wheels. They broadcast unique identifiers wherever you drive.

Re: I also hacked my car

#15

Fairly recent Hondas and Acura base infotainment systems have needless >1 second Bluetooth audio lag. I wish someone with the knowledge would do something similar for these.

Don't all cars have this? I've driven lots of different cars from all kinds of manufacturers and they all have Bluetooth lag, sucks if you want to watch YouTube just sitting in the car waiting for something.

I blame this on crappy drivers. A lot of modern Infotainment systems are running Linux of some variety, and the very easiest thing to do to get technology support is to grab the open source proof-of-concept Bluetooth driver, plug it in, and call it good.

Re: I also hacked my car

#16
post #4

Interesting and enjoyable read, good job. Just info: on my android phone with firefox the scrolling is atrociously slow (more than 1 sec lag during every scroll)

No problem here either (FF 122 on a Pixel 4a)

Re: I also hacked my car

#17

Awesome post! When will we be able to operate our car without it spying on us? Will we eventually be able to turn off the "phoning home" function/part?

Remember to remove the TPMS sensors from your wheels. They broadcast unique identifiers wherever you drive.

That does not seem to be too different from having a visible, readable ID plate - the information spread is "individual at that reader at that time" (though yes, if unneeded it should not be there).

The issue is with more with recordings and with the principle of sending data around beyond the ID - and especially with the contract that would make such activity accepted.

Re: I also hacked my car

#18
I really appreciate that the author took the time to put a summary near the end:

> I used a Raspberry Pi in USB gadget mode to simulate an Android device connected to the head unit. The head unit thinks it's accepting a navigation maps update from the "phone", but because the update protocol allows for arbitrary file changes, I can issue commands to modify a specific file and inject a call to a bash script that gets run as root.

Re: I also hacked my car

#19

First time posting here on HN, I hope you find my latest hacking adventure interesting. Inspired by another post here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32447650

> Inspired by another post here on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32447650

In more parts posted in distant times, the last of which (one year after that post) is -

the author (greenluigi1) made Doom work on the Hyundai (Ioniq SEL).

https://programmingwithstyle.com/posts/myhackedcarisdoomed/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snKx3k5Qfm0

Re: I also hacked my car

#20
Too mad that we have to hack our car to customize it. We can reinstall computers very easy, choose the OS you like. But cannot do something on our car. Old cars, you can modify everything, grap your tools, and you can do what you want. Modern cars are too closed, you are too depend on the factory what they allow you can do. Also are modern cars too complex with too many gadgets. Please keep it simple, it is a car, not an entertainment device.
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