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'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

Always seemed odd to me that House was even able to think clearly while high all the time, much less do his job at such a high level.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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post #2

I can understand how he feels. But haters gonna hate, criminals gonna crime. He threw some new thoughts into the world, he made people think. surely he did not demagnetize people's moral compasses. It reeks of illusions of grandeur. Sure it is a nice piece, but he overestimates the influence imho. Similar to William Gibson thinking he is the father of things Steam Punk ever. Edit: Indeed I meant cyber punk.

William Gibson is the father of Cyberpunk, not Steam Punk.

Though if Gibson is the father, I might say Bester is the grandfather.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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post #10
post #2

I can understand how he feels. But haters gonna hate, criminals gonna crime. He threw some new thoughts into the world, he made people think. surely he did not demagnetize people's moral compasses. It reeks of illusions of grandeur. Sure it is a nice piece, but he overestimates the influence imho. Similar to William Gibson thinking he is the father of things Steam Punk ever. Edit: Indeed I meant cyber punk.

> Steam Punk Cyber Punk?

Probably a typo, but Gibson also co-authored The Difference Engine, which is as Steam Punk as it gets :)

(and according to Wikipedia "...is widely regarded as a book that helped establish the genre conventions of steampunk.")

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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Tangential: I remember reading a criticism about the South Park ginger episode leading to redheads getting bullied. I was curious (and still haven't wrapped my head around) what blame can be placed, if any.

1. Shitty people had latent bullying and cruelty instincts and South Park gave them the idea of diverting that to redheads

2. People were just chilling until South Park taught them to be cruel and bully gingers

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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post #2

I can understand how he feels. But haters gonna hate, criminals gonna crime. He threw some new thoughts into the world, he made people think. surely he did not demagnetize people's moral compasses. It reeks of illusions of grandeur. Sure it is a nice piece, but he overestimates the influence imho. Similar to William Gibson thinking he is the father of things Steam Punk ever. Edit: Indeed I meant cyber punk.

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Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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post #2

I can understand how he feels. But haters gonna hate, criminals gonna crime. He threw some new thoughts into the world, he made people think. surely he did not demagnetize people's moral compasses. It reeks of illusions of grandeur. Sure it is a nice piece, but he overestimates the influence imho. Similar to William Gibson thinking he is the father of things Steam Punk ever. Edit: Indeed I meant cyber punk.

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Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

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Kubrick’s version was a failure because he missed the most important part and the last few pages of the book.

In the book at the very end Alex decides out of his own free will to stop being violent. Which is the entire point of the book: free will vs being forced to do something. It’s so powerful, I don’t think any book affected as much as that did at the time.

Kubrick focused on the violence and the rapes and by leaving out the most important part, it was more soft core porn than anything else and an abject failure in my opinion.

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