FreeBSD 4 Bug may be present in Playstation 4/5

Post by SomeoneFromCA » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 3:27 PM UTC

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It was not only the most stable, but for many applications, especially in networking, it was also the fastest single-threaded operating system, beating easily Linux and Windows XP or 2000. Unfortunately for FreeBSD, the launch of the Intel Pentium 4 with hyper-threading in 2003, then of the AMD dual-core CPUs in 2005 have made quickly FreeBSD 4 completely obsolete. The smaller FreeBSD team has required many years unt…

I've only ever lost data on Linux ext* filesystems, never on FreeBSD UFS or ZFS. 20 years ago it was unfortunately not unusual to experience the Linux "nuclear fsck" where it scrolls by so fast and for so long you know it's toast.

Post by SomeoneFromCA » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

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tiffanyh wrote: post #2

FreeBSD 4.x was considered by many as the most stable FreeBSD ever. Mainly because there were 11 point releases of fixes and enhancements (4.11), as opposed to today where FreeBSD major version only have 3-4 point releases. https://www.freebsd.org/releases/

It was not only the most stable, but for many applications, especially in networking, it was also the fastest single-threaded operating system, beating easily Linux and Windows XP or 2000. Unfortunately for FreeBSD, the launch of the Intel Pentium 4 with hyper-threading in 2003, then of the AMD dual-core CPUs in 2005 have made quickly FreeBSD 4 completely obsolete. The smaller FreeBSD team has required many years unt…

Post by dewey » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 3:41 PM UTC

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It was not only the most stable, but for many applications, especially in networking, it was also the fastest single-threaded operating system, beating easily Linux and Windows XP or 2000. Unfortunately for FreeBSD, the launch of the Intel Pentium 4 with hyper-threading in 2003, then of the AMD dual-core CPUs in 2005 have made quickly FreeBSD 4 completely obsolete. The smaller FreeBSD team has required many years unt…

I recently booted old (Freebsd 12) VM and was surprised how _much_ more performant (vs debian) its tcp stack is, even when just browsing.

Post by znpy » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 3:45 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #17

tiffanyh wrote: post #2

FreeBSD 4.x was considered by many as the most stable FreeBSD ever. Mainly because there were 11 point releases of fixes and enhancements (4.11), as opposed to today where FreeBSD major version only have 3-4 point releases. https://www.freebsd.org/releases/

That's also the period Yahoo and other companies had a tremendous investment in FreeBSD. FreeBSD is great on its own, and that amount of attention also meant every single bit of performance would be extracted no matter what it takes, and any scaling or stability issues would be hammered out pretty quick. Until they moved to redhat...

Post by znpy » Thu, Feb 01, 2024, 3:47 PM UTC

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yea: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2003-Jul...

DragonflyBSD is typically on-par or slightly faster than Ubuntu (Linux) or FreeBSD. And that's with a radically smaller # of developers working on it. https://www.phoronix.com/review/corei9-freebsd13-dfly6/4 -- Yes, I know the common complaint is benchmarks are flawed and how Phoronix could do more meaningful test. But the reality is, nearly no one even does comprehensive OS benchmarking anymore - so there isn't real…