I'd actually love a tool that converts tailwind CSS to regular CSS on save because my biggest issue with CSS is that I constantly have to come up with ids and class names.
Tailwind Isn't for Me
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#12People want painkillers, not vitamins. That's why there is this endless flow of snake oil frameworks like Tailwind and all the others. People see some fancy demos and think "wow, so cool so easy" and "This is the newest framework, so it must be the best" and go for it. Then over time, they get caught in a web of problems that the complexity of the framework produces. Then a few people go for the vitamins route (plain…
I haven't used tw yet, but I intend to because I was blown away by how much sense the authors' book Refactoring UI made.
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#13I'd actually love a tool that converts tailwind CSS to regular CSS on save because my biggest issue with CSS is that I constantly have to come up with ids and class names.
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#14As someone who used to make websites in the myspace days (and has about that much experience with web dev, plus a few static client sites from high school), I gave tailwind a try for my most recent project. I think it saves me a bit of time, and it's easier to get a decent aesthetic quickly. That said, I don't feel it's strictly necessary, and I don't like the HTML bloating either. It makes me want to create classes,…
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#15People want painkillers, not vitamins. That's why there is this endless flow of snake oil frameworks like Tailwind and all the others. People see some fancy demos and think "wow, so cool so easy" and "This is the newest framework, so it must be the best" and go for it. Then over time, they get caught in a web of problems that the complexity of the framework produces. Then a few people go for the vitamins route (plain…
For a long-term project that will require lots of development a more thorough approach would be justified.
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#16Especially in the HTMX community I'm alwayws wondering why people are chosing Tailwind. I tried it too and had the same problems as stated in the article. Mainly that its polluting the HTML so much. I went the opposite route and am using PicoCSS now which works with semantic tags and can even work without any classes. Feels much cleaner
"The behaviour of a unit of code should be as obvious as possible by looking only at that unit of code"
https://htmx.org/essays/locality-of-behaviour/
Some people want "cleaner" and that's fine, I much prefer things to be "right there" as much as possible. Must be how my brain works
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#17Of course it's easier to use. Pressing the bold button in MS Word is easier than setting up styles etc, but one makes it easy to create an impossible to maintain mess that could have been made by a primary schooler, and one makes it possible to create a consistent style that looks professional.
The only reason I think Tailwind is becoming popular now is it's exposing a bunch of things like rounded corners and drop shadows that are still cool but unlike Bootstrap you can slightly tweak your rounded corners easily. It'll still lead to everything looking the same, then people will probably ditch it and go back to really minimalist styles like HN to look cool again.
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#18If you have tendinitis/RSI/carpal tunnel I cannot stress enough how much worse it feels writing tailwind versus regular css.
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#19People want painkillers, not vitamins. That's why there is this endless flow of snake oil frameworks like Tailwind and all the others. People see some fancy demos and think "wow, so cool so easy" and "This is the newest framework, so it must be the best" and go for it. Then over time, they get caught in a web of problems that the complexity of the framework produces. Then a few people go for the vitamins route (plain…
In your analogy, wouldn't tailwind be more of a multivitamin, in that it contains a bunch CSS classes (vitamins) conveniently packaged and ready to go? I haven't used tw yet, but I intend to because I was blown away by how much sense the authors' book Refactoring UI made.
Which condition do you intend to treat by taking multivitamins?
Have you looked at randomized controlled studies and found that they support your idea that taking MVs has a positive effect on that condition?
Have you got your bloodwork done? Did the doctor then suggest that based on your situation MVs are the right approach? I never have heard of such a thing happening.
So yeah, TW and MVs are similar. Both appeal to people who think "Hey, why do the work and figure things out and act appropriately? I can just swallow this magic pill!".
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#20People want painkillers, not vitamins. That's why there is this endless flow of snake oil frameworks like Tailwind and all the others. People see some fancy demos and think "wow, so cool so easy" and "This is the newest framework, so it must be the best" and go for it. Then over time, they get caught in a web of problems that the complexity of the framework produces. Then a few people go for the vitamins route (plain…
I personally believe the js model is completely wrong for the browser and something like an actor model would fit much better.
I’m not saying we should jump on every hype train, and personally really dislike the react ecosystem but I also think we should encourage exploring new approaches. CSS, html and js evolution is driven by the exploration of these new frameworks and they’re very different than what they were just a few years ago