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You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

#11

You know what japan always does though? They always respond to applications. Theres no instant automated rejection email. Theres no getting ghosted by 90% of companies. Pay is bad though.

> Pay is bad though

I wonder if that is in any way correlated to this:

> Gov't study finds only 3,065 homeless people in Japan

https://japantoday.com/category/national/gov%27t-study-finds...

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

#12
Japan requires photos of woman on their resumes, and their age. Japanese employers don't like hiring women who are in their child-bearing ages because they might get pregnant.

Say what you want about the US, but the level of protection workers have is so much better than most other countries.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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You know what japan always does though? They always respond to applications. Theres no instant automated rejection email. Theres no getting ghosted by 90% of companies. Pay is bad though.

> Pay is bad though I wonder if that is in any way correlated to this: > Gov't study finds only 3,065 homeless people in Japan https://japantoday.com/category/national/gov%27t-study-finds...

First, that number is most probably understated.

Second, your comment could be interpreted as saying that counties with high pay have (or should have) a lot of homeless people, which seems insane. So what did you mean?

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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post #4

If this is true, given their birth rate, they will have to change, or run out of people to do things.

A reminder Japan's birthrate isn't a special case: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_f...

Same as Spain and Jamaica, higher than China and Korea.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than that, too. I bet you could guess my age within 2 years with solely a list of technology I've used. I don't think it would even have to be sorted by date.

Yah, when your answer for "most interesting project" involves an MCU with 63 bytes of RAM...

That could be very well today.

Here is an example of an MCU with 48 bytes of SRAM that is relevant in 2024 because it costs less than 2 cents: https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/span-style-background-co...

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

#16

Japan requires photos of woman on their resumes, and their age. Japanese employers don't like hiring women who are in their child-bearing ages because they might get pregnant. Say what you want about the US, but the level of protection workers have is so much better than most other countries.

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Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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Japan requires photos of woman on their resumes, and their age. Japanese employers don't like hiring women who are in their child-bearing ages because they might get pregnant. Say what you want about the US, but the level of protection workers have is so much better than most other countries.

They don't "require photos of woman", passport-style portrait photos are standard period. It's really no different from LinkedIn being the standard in Western countries where you're suspicious if you don't have a personal photo on your profile and where you can just as easily be discriminated against based on your looks or whatever other criteria you can think of. The only difference is that they'll use euphemisms or outright bullshit you, if they even bother getting back to you about your application.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

#18

Japan requires photos of woman on their resumes, and their age. Japanese employers don't like hiring women who are in their child-bearing ages because they might get pregnant. Say what you want about the US, but the level of protection workers have is so much better than most other countries.

Bit disingenuous wording - they don't exclude men from photos & age.

The US has summary firing. In Japan if you're a permanent employee you can reasonably expect to remain so.

From the people pissing in bottles at Amazon your protections don't sound any better.

Hiring discrimination against child bearing aged women is universal - it's just in the US they have to be more careful how they do it.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

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In the company I worked for, it actually went the other way, from the US.

There were levels and positions that were only available to employees of certain chronological ages (or above). I remember doing some fancy footwork, trying to get particularly bright younger engineers into positions of greater responsibility.

They did force you to retire at 60, though. I suspect that is an artifact of their "full employment" stance. I’ll bet they are revisiting that, now, as the population is actually declining.

Re: You're Too Old for That: Age Discrimination in Japan Tech

#20

In practical terms, I've never been asked my age in an interview. At some point I'm going to prune my experience if I have to.

Age is pretty easily guessable by degree dates and your appearance, they don't need to ask it explicitly.

Fortunately for me, I finished my degree much later in life than most folks. Pretty sure I could pass myself off as being at least 10 years younger than I am in a job hunt.

Though we could just normalize leaveing graduation dates off of resumes... I dont6think that is especially relevant for most jobs.

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