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Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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Perhaps I’m just not in sales and haven’t seen how complicated it gets. But they start the article with keep it simple and end up with a stepwise function with two different slopes and an excel spreadsheet to calculate it.

Every salesperson I've met can use Google and is acutely aware of how the next deal affects their compensation.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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Why do sales positions tend to have performance-based compensation when many other roles in the same company are flat salary?

Is it simply because the metrics are so obvious (i.e., attribute sales to the salesperson's individual performance), that it's easy compared to other roles?

Is it because sales work is so close to revenue numbers, that more thought has been given to compensation, or it's thought of differently (like CEO comp)?

Is it a belief that the personalities of salespeople in particular are motivated to perform better by the incentive alignment?

Is it because performance-based can be a sweeter deal for high performers, which some historical salespeople managed to secure, and they're not giving it up? (Should SWEs be maneuvering to get "points" on the particular products they worked on, rather than it just being something they can mention when they beg for a promotion?)

Something else?

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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post #8

I get the importance of hitting targets and all, but it seems like horseshit to me that the employee earns no commission between 0-20% of the target, and at 99% of target is at only 80% commission. Maybe someone with more of a sales mindset than I’ve got would thrive on this, but it feels to me a bit like a “heads I win, tails you lose” outcome for the company. Doesn’t really seem like you’d lose the motivating facto…

Your gut is right. That is horseshit. I’ve built many comp plans and hired several sales teams. I’d never offer that structure to any sales person I wanted to retain. These kinds of gamed comp plans are for people that don’t really know how to build the right teams.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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Perhaps I’m just not in sales and haven’t seen how complicated it gets. But they start the article with keep it simple and end up with a stepwise function with two different slopes and an excel spreadsheet to calculate it.

The example given here is still incredibly simple compared to the quota/commission structures at major companies. Negotiate an enterprise deal with a multinational, and now you need to allocate quotas to a sales team split across several countries, work out how to handle subcontractors and partners, bonus incentives for what corporate is trying to push today, account for change requests and maintenance and support and ongoing consumption and upgrades, etc etc.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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post #8

I get the importance of hitting targets and all, but it seems like horseshit to me that the employee earns no commission between 0-20% of the target, and at 99% of target is at only 80% commission. Maybe someone with more of a sales mindset than I’ve got would thrive on this, but it feels to me a bit like a “heads I win, tails you lose” outcome for the company. Doesn’t really seem like you’d lose the motivating facto…

Sales reps hate these structures. Professional sales managers understand these structures are demotivating and harm sales.

The author to be blunt, simply does not know what he is talking about and nobody should listen to his advice on structuring comp plans.

You might want to forward his article over to your competitors, though.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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post #12

Why do sales positions tend to have performance-based compensation when many other roles in the same company are flat salary? Is it simply because the metrics are so obvious (i.e., attribute sales to the salesperson's individual performance), that it's easy compared to other roles? Is it because sales work is so close to revenue numbers, that more thought has been given to compensation, or it's thought of differently…

Salespeople don't want to join an org without performance-based compensation. We can ask why, but that brute fact is enough to explain why sales positions tend to have performance-based compensation.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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post #12

Why do sales positions tend to have performance-based compensation when many other roles in the same company are flat salary? Is it simply because the metrics are so obvious (i.e., attribute sales to the salesperson's individual performance), that it's easy compared to other roles? Is it because sales work is so close to revenue numbers, that more thought has been given to compensation, or it's thought of differently…

All of the above. To answer the second question - if salespeople aren’t selling, there’s no money to pay salaries. Commission plans are an important factor in cost of revenue.

And yes, certain personalities are 100% attracted to sales because of the high earnings potential and the direct correlation between performance and compensation.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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I'm a rep at a big SaaS firm - no one says "OTC", whatever that is. It's OTE. Also, literally no sales org would ever weight an AE's comp more towards base and a VP's comp more towards variable - everyone is on a 50/50 split, and if anything the VP would have more guaranteed comp. No discussion of RSUs or options? Furthermore, I have never in my life seen a plan that withholds the final quintile of variable comp - that sounds horrifying and no experienced, high-quality rep would work at a place like that.

Jason Lemkin's blogposts and videos on sales compensation are way more accurate than this.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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post #12

Why do sales positions tend to have performance-based compensation when many other roles in the same company are flat salary? Is it simply because the metrics are so obvious (i.e., attribute sales to the salesperson's individual performance), that it's easy compared to other roles? Is it because sales work is so close to revenue numbers, that more thought has been given to compensation, or it's thought of differently…

A little bit of column a, a little bit of column b.

There are industries where sales reps are paid only on commission. The advantage to the company is simple: you don't pay anything to sales reps who don't sell anything. That's where the commission system came from. So, some of this is historical, and, yes the metrics are really obvious. At least the core revenue metric is. But, that's a lagging indicator of performance -- there are endless debates about the leading indicators of sales performance, and none of those are nearly so clear.

Second, most people aren't any good at sales and aren't ever going to be good at sales. The performance distribution is as close to a Pareto distribution as I've ever seen. The sales reps you want -- the ones that bring in 80% of the revenue -- certainly are motivated by "incentive alignment." Actually, they're motivated by being paid enormous sums of money, and they know that if you won't pay them, the competition will.

Third, the sales reps have more leverage than many back-office workers in that their work is very fungible. Or, at least, sales rep believe and act as if they have a lot of leverage. They don't go to school for years or develop deep domain expertise that might not translate to a competitor. They'll happily take their skills elsewhere if they feel there is a better opportunity secure in the knowledge that if you can sell widget a, then you can also sell widget b.

Re: Just another practical sales rep comp plan

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post #12

Why do sales positions tend to have performance-based compensation when many other roles in the same company are flat salary? Is it simply because the metrics are so obvious (i.e., attribute sales to the salesperson's individual performance), that it's easy compared to other roles? Is it because sales work is so close to revenue numbers, that more thought has been given to compensation, or it's thought of differently…

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