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Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by gregoriol »

AlexandrB wrote: post #7
bequanna wrote: post #5

Here comes the confirmation bias. Now, every issue with a Boeing plane will be noticed, reported on and magnified. I'm not saying this is necessarily bad as there actually do seem to be some significant issues at Boeing. Hopefully, the result is an intense shakeup resulting in increased focus on quality.

There were plenty of rumblings about Boeing's poor quality control after the MCAS issues. Didn't seem to change much. But then again, maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back in terms of PR.

Maybe different problem here: while MCAS was an engineering problem, door was an assembly problem, here it would more likely be a maintenance problem (757s have been built years ago), which is on the airline or not directly Boeing?

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by margalabargala »

bequanna wrote: post #5

Here comes the confirmation bias. Now, every issue with a Boeing plane will be noticed, reported on and magnified. I'm not saying this is necessarily bad as there actually do seem to be some significant issues at Boeing. Hopefully, the result is an intense shakeup resulting in increased focus on quality.

Unless the plane was brand new from Boeing, it's difficult to see how this is a Boeing failure rather than a Delta maintenance failure.

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by EdwardDiego »

georgyo wrote: post #8
weard_beard wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“The wheels are coming off”, you say?

Very relevant skit https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=jrExOJWxTPIVECel

Cardboard is right out. No cardboard derivatives.

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by pimlottc »

EarthIsHome wrote: post #4
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #3

Looks like a misleading tweet, in the video it sounds like the tire came off like it was a flat maybe?

In the video: > It just rolled off the runway behind you.

That doesn't really answer it, most tires hold enough shape to be able to roll on their own.

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by SoftTalker »

All airliners occasionally have problems with wheels and/or tires. And occasionally have cracked window glass. And occasionally have engine failures. And occasionally have pressurization problems, Read avherald.com for a few days and you'll see that it happens to Airbus, Boeing, Embraer, Bombardier, and others. And with the number of flights worldwide, some kind of problem serious enough to cause a return to the aiport or diverting to an alternate happens almost every day.

Boeing has some serious questions to answer about their engineering and QA processes. But attributing random normal problems to that just confuses the issue.

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by glitchc »

bequanna wrote: post #5

Here comes the confirmation bias. Now, every issue with a Boeing plane will be noticed, reported on and magnified. I'm not saying this is necessarily bad as there actually do seem to be some significant issues at Boeing. Hopefully, the result is an intense shakeup resulting in increased focus on quality.

I think this has been happening since the Ethiopian Airlines incident. Individuals should be extremely careful about using the news as a reliable way of measuring personal risk.

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by Jtsummers »

gregoriol wrote: post #11
AlexandrB wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were plenty of rumblings about Boeing's poor quality control after the MCAS issues. Didn't seem to change much. But then again, maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back in terms of PR.

Maybe different problem here: while MCAS was an engineering problem, door was an assembly problem, here it would more likely be a maintenance problem (757s have been built years ago), which is on the airline or not directly Boeing?

Yes. The youngest 757 is 20 years old, oldest is 40. This would be a maintenance issue of some sort.

Re: Wheel of a Delta Boeing 757 flew off while it was preparing to take off at ATL

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Post by sokoloff »

AlexandrB wrote: post #7
bequanna wrote: post #5

Here comes the confirmation bias. Now, every issue with a Boeing plane will be noticed, reported on and magnified. I'm not saying this is necessarily bad as there actually do seem to be some significant issues at Boeing. Hopefully, the result is an intense shakeup resulting in increased focus on quality.

There were plenty of rumblings about Boeing's poor quality control after the MCAS issues. Didn't seem to change much. But then again, maybe this is the straw that breaks the camel's back in terms of PR.

The last 757 flew away from Boeing in 2004. It's surely the case that the landing gear issue that happened today has little or nothing to do with Boeing's quality control and everything to do with airline maintenance actions/responsibility.
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