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The author of this article clearly has no idea about what a system like Raspberry Pi is aiming for. The lack of Windows compatibility is one of its most important features. It's about kids learning to do fun, interesting, challenging things with a computer. It's not about using an office suite or playing TF2.
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Once you factor in shipping of the computer itself, and a case for the Rasp Pi ($20 or so), the price difference is actually quite small.
The speculated price point in the article is $100 (which is conjecture), but then you have to add an 1155 CPU and a couple of sticks of DDR3 memory. There's also no slot for an SD card, which is going to make storage more expensive. Practical builds of this aren't going to be below $200 (and that's assuming the price quoted in the ET article is correct). You're right about no case, but this unit also requires shippin…
I don't know what the plan is, re: non-volatile storage. I guess you could plug in a USB memory stick (v. cheap), or use the PCIe headers.
Makes me wonder how cheap Intel could make a computer, if it really tried, though. I guess profit margins are the only thing stopping it from building something cheaper/better than the Rasp Pi.
I call BS on it costing close to $100. There is no way given the cost of the processor alone.
It could easily become a main system with surprisingly few compromises-- (given thunderbolt and the reasonable iGPU)... and i really doubt the board alone will be available for < $200.
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Agreed. ExtremeTech writes about some really cool stuff, but then goes does it in such a blogspammy way. There's an order of magnitude price difference between the products. The title couldn't be more linkbait. I've started to skip the ET articles and just read the comments on HN, which are usually pretty interesting, and way more accurate.
Once you factor in shipping of the computer itself, and a case for the Rasp Pi ($20 or so), the price difference is actually quite small.
" It almost certainly won’t be as cheap as the $25 Raspberry Pi, but a price point around $100 would be realistic." I call BS on it costing close to $100. There is no way given the cost of the processor alone.
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The speculated price point in the article is $100 (which is conjecture), but then you have to add an 1155 CPU and a couple of sticks of DDR3 memory. There's also no slot for an SD card, which is going to make storage more expensive. Practical builds of this aren't going to be below $200 (and that's assuming the price quoted in the ET article is correct). You're right about no case, but this unit also requires shippin…
Good point, re: RAM! I don't know what the plan is, re: non-volatile storage. I guess you could plug in a USB memory stick (v. cheap), or use the PCIe headers. Makes me wonder how cheap Intel could make a computer, if it really tried, though. I guess profit margins are the only thing stopping it from building something cheaper/better than the Rasp Pi.
This product is of a different class. You can't have fancy I/O like Thunderbolt and USB3 and compete on price with RPi.
I don't really see that this has much to do with the Raspberry Pi. If the board without the (much more powerful) CPU alone is $100, it's not really comparable other than being relatively small.
30 times the power consumption. 7 times the cost (you probably wanted a CPU and RAM to go with the motherboard). No programmable pins for controlling the world. Closed design. It's just a tiny PC motherboard. Nothing to do with a Raspberry Pi other than the hook Sebastian Anthony chose for his title.
" It almost certainly won’t be as cheap as the $25 Raspberry Pi, but a price point around $100 would be realistic." I call BS on it costing close to $100. There is no way given the cost of the processor alone.
I think this is only for the casing and motherboard, without RAM, storage or CPU. At least it's what I understand from the article.
Say a mobile i5 costs $150 and a RAM that costs $20. We're looking at a $300 system that consumes 10x the power of RPi. I think this is a useful system on its own, but it's not a competitor of RPi.
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Good point, re: RAM! I don't know what the plan is, re: non-volatile storage. I guess you could plug in a USB memory stick (v. cheap), or use the PCIe headers. Makes me wonder how cheap Intel could make a computer, if it really tried, though. I guess profit margins are the only thing stopping it from building something cheaper/better than the Rasp Pi.
you can't use USB memory to replace RAM. USB memory has read speed of ~10MB/s, a 100MHz DDR2 RAM has read speed of 3200MB/s. This product is of a different class. You can't have fancy I/O like Thunderbolt and USB3 and compete on price with RPi.