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"Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

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Re: "Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

#11

Honestly, I think we need an entirely different way of looking at "taxes". We need to find a way to calculate the externalities of a company and charge that as taxes. I don't have a magic way to do that, nor am I convinced it is possible. But I think that is the bare minimum we can agree government and regulations are for, to prevent and compensate for us hurting each other. Especially in ways that are hard for indiv…

Or we can stop trying to have the government solve every problem there is and stop taxing people at every instance of money transfer. If you’re an average person your income is taxed, your spending is taxed and any investments you make are then taxed. If you give someone a gift it’s taxed ffs. The end result is a government that spends more than it makes so think tanks can push the idea we need to find more ways and people to tax.

Anyone who stops for a second and thinks about it knows that if we taxed the “super rich” to the gills the end result would be an increase in government spending, not a reduction of our deficit.

Re: "Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

#13

Honestly, I think we need an entirely different way of looking at "taxes". We need to find a way to calculate the externalities of a company and charge that as taxes. I don't have a magic way to do that, nor am I convinced it is possible. But I think that is the bare minimum we can agree government and regulations are for, to prevent and compensate for us hurting each other. Especially in ways that are hard for indiv…

Or we can stop trying to have the government solve every problem there is and stop taxing people at every instance of money transfer. If you’re an average person your income is taxed, your spending is taxed and any investments you make are then taxed. If you give someone a gift it’s taxed ffs. The end result is a government that spends more than it makes so think tanks can push the idea we need to find more ways and…

> If you give someone a gift it’s taxed ffs.

Not if you're an average person giving normally priced gifts.

Re: "Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

#14

Honestly, I think we need an entirely different way of looking at "taxes". We need to find a way to calculate the externalities of a company and charge that as taxes. I don't have a magic way to do that, nor am I convinced it is possible. But I think that is the bare minimum we can agree government and regulations are for, to prevent and compensate for us hurting each other. Especially in ways that are hard for indiv…

Or we can stop trying to have the government solve every problem there is and stop taxing people at every instance of money transfer. If you’re an average person your income is taxed, your spending is taxed and any investments you make are then taxed. If you give someone a gift it’s taxed ffs. The end result is a government that spends more than it makes so think tanks can push the idea we need to find more ways and…

> Or we can stop trying to have the government solve every problem there is and stop taxing people at every instance of money transfer. If you’re an average person your income is taxed, your spending is taxed and any investments you make are then taxed. If you give someone a gift it’s taxed ffs. The end result is a government that spends more than it makes so think tanks can push the idea we need to find more ways and people to tax.

That literally is what I am proposing. Things like pollution, global warming, and resource extraction should have the costs on the commons paid back to the commons. If that cost is too high for profitability, the business shouldn't exist.

Re: "Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

#15

Put up, or shut up. If you want to pay more, the fucking pay more, you are free to give the IRS more. I don’t understand why anyone, ever, would be in favor of more or higher compulsory taxes.

> I don’t understand why anyone, ever, would be in favor of more or higher compulsory taxes.

because some wealth from the ultra-rich can do a lot of good and has zero impact on them.

https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

Re: "Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

#18

Just a friendly reminder - for Americans that think your taxes are too low, you can make a "gift to reduce the public debt" here: https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454

Even if I were a super trillionaire I would be hesitant to contribute anything to the public debt until congress can balance its budget. We have to bring the spending down. Yes, Republican policies tend to cost more but they aren’t completely wrong about many social programs.

Re: "Elected leaders must tax us, the super rich. We'd be proud to pay more."

#20

Kind of weird to hear it when the super wealth could be paying way more taxes if they wished right now.

A few people paying $x million more per year in taxes is insignificant but tens of thousands of people paying $x million more per year in taxes is significant. For example I advocate for raising taxes in my locality to better fund the schools. It’s bad policy to say, “Well why don’t you just voluntarily pay more?”

Whether or not you still think people should just volunteer to pay more if they think taxes are too low you have not addressed the essence of the situation. Namely, “Are taxes too low and should they be raised?” Why or why not?

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