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These AIs are not people. They do not learn.
Define learn.
Nightshade: An offensive tool for artists against AI art generators
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#12> More specifically, we assume the attacker:
> • can inject a small number of poison data (image/text pairs) to the model’s training dataset
I think thoes are bad assumption, labelling is more and more done by some labelling AI.
Re: Nightshade: An offensive tool for artists against AI art generators
#13Doing the work to increase OpenAIs moat
Obviously AIs can just train on images that aren't poisoned.
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#14This is fantastic. If companies want to create AI models, they should license the content they use for the training data. As long as there are not sufficient legal protections and the EU/Congress do not act, tools like these can serve as a stopgap and maybe help increase pressure on policymakers
> they should license the content they use for the training data
You mean like OpenAI and Adobe ?
Only the free and open source models didn't licensed any content for the training data.
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This is a tired argument; whether or not the diffusion models are "learning", they are a tool of capital to fuck over human artists, and should be resisted for that reason alone.
As a representative of a lot of things but hardly any capital who uses diffusion models to get something I would otherwise not pay a human artist for anyway, I testify that, the models are not exclusively what you describe them to be.
I do not support indiscriminate banning of anything and everything that can potentially be used to fuck someone over.
Re: Nightshade: An offensive tool for artists against AI art generators
#16I'm glad to see tools like Nightshade starting to pop up to protect the real life creativity of artists. I like AI art, but I do feel conflicted about its potential long term effects towards a society that no longer values authentic creativity.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a tired argument; whether or not the diffusion models are "learning", they are a tool of capital to fuck over human artists, and should be resisted for that reason alone.
As a representative of a lot of things but hardly any capital who uses diffusion models to get something I would otherwise not pay a human artist for anyway, I testify that, the models are not exclusively what you describe them to be. I do not support indiscriminate banning of anything and everything that can potentially be used to fuck someone over.
I did not say they were exclusively that; I said they were that.
Once we as a society have implemented a good way for the artists whose work powers these machines to survive, you can feel good about using them. Until then, frankly, you're doing something immoral by paying to use them.
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#18Isn't this just teaching the models how to better understand pictures as humans do? As long as you feed them content that looks good to a human, wouldn't they improve in creating such content?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a representative of a lot of things but hardly any capital who uses diffusion models to get something I would otherwise not pay a human artist for anyway, I testify that, the models are not exclusively what you describe them to be. I do not support indiscriminate banning of anything and everything that can potentially be used to fuck someone over.
I did not say they were exclusively that; I said they were that. Once we as a society have implemented a good way for the artists whose work powers these machines to survive, you can feel good about using them. Until then, frankly, you're doing something immoral by paying to use them.
What if I run Stable Diffusion locally without paying anyone anything? Is it less immoral?
Re: Nightshade: An offensive tool for artists against AI art generators
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a representative of a lot of things but hardly any capital who uses diffusion models to get something I would otherwise not pay a human artist for anyway, I testify that, the models are not exclusively what you describe them to be. I do not support indiscriminate banning of anything and everything that can potentially be used to fuck someone over.
I did not say they were exclusively that; I said they were that. Once we as a society have implemented a good way for the artists whose work powers these machines to survive, you can feel good about using them. Until then, frankly, you're doing something immoral by paying to use them.
Who pays to use generators? The open ones are way more capable and interesting, generally.