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I'm quite negatively surprised that a government service is moving from their own platform to AWS for such an important service.
A lot of the discussion boiled down to 'this is a lot of complexity to avoid a few minutes of downtime'. I guess this is the proof, just use AWS Data Migration Service, swap the DNS entries to go live and live with 11 seconds of downtime.
I'm quite negatively surprised that a government service is moving from their own platform to AWS for such an important service.
AWS has a lot of pre-audited compliance built into their services. Being able to inherit their certification for services can save an organization a lot of time and effort.
EDIT If they are looking for money id like to participate a bit in the seed round
Interesting to compare this to https://knock.app/blog/zero-downtime-postgres-upgrades discussed here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38616181 A lot of the discussion boiled down to 'this is a lot of complexity to avoid a few minutes of downtime'. I guess this is the proof, just use AWS Data Migration Service, swap the DNS entries to go live and live with 11 seconds of downtime.
> We chose to use DMS because it was well supported by the GOV.UK PaaS and we could also get support from AWS. If we were doing a PostgreSQL to PostgreSQL database migration in the future, we would invest more time in trying alternative tools such as pglogical. DMS potentially added more complexity, and an unfamiliar replication process than what we may have found with other tools. This backs up what AWS say themselves on PostgreSQL to PostgreSQL migrations.
The message here is not "just use DMS".
I'm quite negatively surprised that a government service is moving from their own platform to AWS for such an important service.
AWS has a lot of pre-audited compliance built into their services. Being able to inherit their certification for services can save an organization a lot of time and effort.
All those reasons to go AWS hold for a private company, not for a government service of a first world country and G7 member. AWS has a lot of compliant services, but it's not like they're doing rocket science one of the top 5 richest countries in the world cannot afford to develop or contract within its borders.
The simple reason is that the UK has been on a long trend of selling out to the highest bidder, whether they are US tax avoiding companies, chinese or managed by Russian oligarchs. We have chosen AWS for the same reason Post Office chose Fujitsu.
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AWS has a lot of pre-audited compliance built into their services. Being able to inherit their certification for services can save an organization a lot of time and effort.
Its not an organisation, its a blucking government, it handles citizen data, and its sending them to a company of foreign country, because it can’t hire some system administrators? A GOVERNMENT? What are they doing? Still looking for their product market fit and can’t afford the headcount? Is it a joke? EDIT If they are looking for money id like to participate a bit in the seed round
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AWS has a lot of pre-audited compliance built into their services. Being able to inherit their certification for services can save an organization a lot of time and effort.
How would you feel if the US government ran on servers from a European company, which also works very hard to avoid paying taxes in US soil? All those reasons to go AWS hold for a private company, not for a government service of a first world country and G7 member. AWS has a lot of compliant services, but it's not like they're doing rocket science one of the top 5 richest countries in the world cannot afford to devel…
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Its not an organisation, its a blucking government, it handles citizen data, and its sending them to a company of foreign country, because it can’t hire some system administrators? A GOVERNMENT? What are they doing? Still looking for their product market fit and can’t afford the headcount? Is it a joke? EDIT If they are looking for money id like to participate a bit in the seed round
AWS has a G-Cloud for UK just like they have one for US, no?
I'm quite negatively surprised that a government service is moving from their own platform to AWS for such an important service.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its not an organisation, its a blucking government, it handles citizen data, and its sending them to a company of foreign country, because it can’t hire some system administrators? A GOVERNMENT? What are they doing? Still looking for their product market fit and can’t afford the headcount? Is it a joke? EDIT If they are looking for money id like to participate a bit in the seed round
AWS has a G-Cloud for UK just like they have one for US, no?