Well I an tell you right now you don't need 4wd, it snows like a MF where I live and if you have FWD with proper snow tires (which you should regardless), you will drive circles around 4WD/AWD cars with just all season tires on in winter. Just buy a mid-2010's honda civic or a toyota camry.
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I've driven in blizzards with FWD and snow tires successfully many times. However, after having driven AWD for many years now, I greatly prefer the traction it provides and I'd rather not downgrade.
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#12Mazda CX-90
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#13I believe Mazda is the mainstream brand with the most recent botnet-free cars. Definitely double-check but I'm pretty sure they only started adding internet connectivity in the 2019 model year. They also emphasize physical controls, but AWD is hard to find in this vintage.
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#14Corolla
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#15Maybe a commercial vehicle. If small enough.
Otherwise buy or fix an older vehicle. Or go nuts doing an EV conversion.
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#16Mazda CX-90
Seems promising. What do you like about them, and is there a particular year you'd recommend?
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#17Maybe the Ineos Grenadier?
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#18Basically, just buy a car from 2008-2012 in good condition with low miles.
My 2018 Honda Fit meets all these features. and it has Apple Car and rear view cameras.
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#19You won't find a new one. If you want a car made newer than the last 10 years you would need to look at models sold into fleets which would limit you to basically work trucks/vans and base model ford and GM sedans and subcompacts. Last time I was car shopping base trim ford fiesta's were under $10k and came with a manual transmission, no power windows, no power locks, no cruise control and a standard double DIN radio…
I've never bought an ex-fleet car before, and don't recall ever seeing listings like that on any of the usual used car sites. Would you please point me in the right direction for how to shop for these?
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#20The new LandCruiser 70 series matches exactly what you want. I believe you can buy them in many countries (U.S. not included).
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46001237/toyota-land-crui...