Apple to Shutter 121-Person San Diego AI Team in Reorganization • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple to Shutter 121-Person San Diego AI Team in Reorganization

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Post by acdha » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 12:50 AM UTC

ChatGTP wrote: post #9

moose_man wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but the majority of them aren't willing to move. If a company gave you 2 1/2 months to uproot and move your family to a totally different state, how likely would you be to do it? They probably expected large amounts of people would be established in San Diego and would not want to move.

I'd be doing it if I wanted to keep my job? It's a short flight from Austin back to San.

A “short flight” still means a few hundred dollars and 5+ hours traveling unless you live in the airports, and maintaining a second house is going to exhaust that tiny relocation sum very quickly. Anyone with a family would be effectively be asking their partner to become a single parent, which is a huge burden.

Re: Apple to Shutter 121-Person San Diego AI Team in Reorganization

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Post by acdha » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 8:47 PM UTC

blindfolded_go wrote: post #8

sixhobbits wrote: post #6

https://archive.ph/TnOUv > She added that “everyone currently employed will have the opportunity to continue their role with Apple in Austin.”

So they will have to move 1300 miles and uproot their entire lives if they want to keep their job? Sounds like a terrible position to be in.

I’d also add that a non-trivial number of people are female, gay, or trans and so it’s not just a move but accepting a non-trivial risk of severe to potentially fatal personal harm. If your family includes anyone of childbearing age, for example, continuing to work for Apple would require accepting the risk of dying for reasons which doctors in a free state could easily deal with, and no amount of money can fully remove that risk.

Re: Apple to Shutter 121-Person San Diego AI Team in Reorganization

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Post by tlivolsi » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 9:51 PM UTC

acdha wrote: post #12

blindfolded_go wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they will have to move 1300 miles and uproot their entire lives if they want to keep their job? Sounds like a terrible position to be in.

I’d also add that a non-trivial number of people are female, gay, or trans and so it’s not just a move but accepting a non-trivial risk of severe to potentially fatal personal harm. If your family includes anyone of childbearing age, for example, continuing to work for Apple would require accepting the risk of dying for reasons which doctors in a free state could easily deal with, and no amount of money can fully rem…

On what information are you basing this serious claim?

Re: Apple to Shutter 121-Person San Diego AI Team in Reorganization

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Post by acdha » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 10:52 PM UTC

tlivolsi wrote: post #13

acdha wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d also add that a non-trivial number of people are female, gay, or trans and so it’s not just a move but accepting a non-trivial risk of severe to potentially fatal personal harm. If your family includes anyone of childbearing age, for example, continuing to work for Apple would require accepting the risk of dying for reasons which doctors in a free state could easily deal with, and no amount of money can fully rem…

On what information are you basing this serious claim?

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