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Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by talldatethrow »

maximus-decimus wrote: post #7
koolba wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re a few inches off: https://healthland.time.com/2013/06/03/its-true-you-can-get-...

I guess gen z will be immune them, with all their HPV vaccines.

Yes but they'll get other things technically because of it.

For example, you're more likely to get dementia if you had the HPV vaccine vs if you never had HPV in the first place. Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well.. but for all the health conscious talk you see, you rarely see that recommended these days.

Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by beretguy »

missedthecue wrote: post #8
transfire wrote: post #2

They’re baffled? Look around. We are swimming in artificially synthesized chemicals. What so hard to understand?

There was a lot more of that hazardous carcinogenic stuff 50 years ago though. Baby cribs used to be made from asbestos. Every other person was a smoker. Houses were painted with lead. This trend is very very recent.

Maybe car tires dust then?

Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by zx8080 »

talldatethrow wrote: post #11
maximus-decimus wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess gen z will be immune them, with all their HPV vaccines.

Yes but they'll get other things technically because of it. For example, you're more likely to get dementia if you had the HPV vaccine vs if you never had HPV in the first place. Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well.. but for all the health conscious talk you see, you rarely see that…

> Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well.

It's better to have no partner at all than to hope for the above condition to be true.

Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by talldatethrow »

zx8080 wrote: post #13
talldatethrow wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but they'll get other things technically because of it. For example, you're more likely to get dementia if you had the HPV vaccine vs if you never had HPV in the first place. Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well.. but for all the health conscious talk you see, you rarely see that…

> Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well. It's better to have no partner at all than to hope for the above condition to be true.

For 16-19 year olds, it's not that hard. Even at 19, I'd say about 15-20% of women haven't had a partner yet. For males it's closer to 40% these days.

Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by orwin »

talldatethrow wrote: post #11
maximus-decimus wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess gen z will be immune them, with all their HPV vaccines.

Yes but they'll get other things technically because of it. For example, you're more likely to get dementia if you had the HPV vaccine vs if you never had HPV in the first place. Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well.. but for all the health conscious talk you see, you rarely see that…

Nah, i got HPV, the bad version, the one that create "huge buttons" (don't have the english word) on your thighs for 3-5 years from a girl who was basically a virgin, but was a huge swimmer/fencer/horserider. We don't know where it came from, and i was abstinent for like 2 years prior to that.

Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by jareklupinski »

beretguy wrote: post #12
missedthecue wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a lot more of that hazardous carcinogenic stuff 50 years ago though. Baby cribs used to be made from asbestos. Every other person was a smoker. Houses were painted with lead. This trend is very very recent.

Maybe car tires dust then?

there would be a clear geographic distribution of cancers along major highways vs rural areas with little traffic

which may be happening? not sure if anyone actually tried making a survey along those lines yet; I think currently most of the time a geographic distrubution of cancers is assessed to find chemical leaks e.g. superfund sites

Re: Cancer Is Striking More Young People, and Doctors Are Alarmed and Baffled

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Post by talldatethrow »

orwin wrote: post #15
talldatethrow wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but they'll get other things technically because of it. For example, you're more likely to get dementia if you had the HPV vaccine vs if you never had HPV in the first place. Of course, it's not trivial to avoid getting HPV in the first place... You'd have to basically only have one partner and you'd have to have been their only partner as well.. but for all the health conscious talk you see, you rarely see that…

Nah, i got HPV, the bad version, the one that create "huge buttons" (don't have the english word) on your thighs for 3-5 years from a girl who was basically a virgin, but was a huge swimmer/fencer/horserider. We don't know where it came from, and i was abstinent for like 2 years prior to that.

Ive got some unfortunate news for you....
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