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Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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post #6

I struggled with this recently, upgrading qtwebkit from Qt5 to Qt6. Qt5 used platform-specific height values, while Qt6 now uses win height values, for consistent rendering across all platforms. It’s better in concept, the only issue is that the really big cross-platform browser _doesn’t_ so it turns into “why doesn’t this font rendering look like Chrome on Mac/linux?”

How do you solve the problem?

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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post #10

Macs are king when it comes to font rendering. It was prioritized in the original Macintosh and Apple still has the most solid font engine to this day.

Sounds plausible but do you have any evidence?

https://superuser.com/questions/969694/why-fonts-on-mac-os-x...

This explains better than I can

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The windows 10 ones are atrocious but I quite like the windows 11 ones. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-teams-publi...

The comments on that article are hilarious. Never in my life would I have expected someone to complain about a lack of professionality in an emoji set. Since when are emoji professional?

> Since when are emoji professional?

If you're asking whether we use emoji in professional setting to convey important information, yes, we do, in spades.

Imagine you see an alert in slack about a critical system. You can type a full sentence to explain you've seen it and will investigate what's happening, or you can stick an :eyes: reaction on it and actually focus on investigating.

Same if you want someone to wait a bit because you're thinking etc.

You can always type full sentences to convey the same information, but in a professional setting conciseness and efficiency are also valuable, right ?

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comments on that article are hilarious. Never in my life would I have expected someone to complain about a lack of professionality in an emoji set. Since when are emoji professional?

> Since when are emoji professional? If you're asking whether we use emoji in professional setting to convey important information, yes, we do, in spades. Imagine you see an alert in slack about a critical system. You can type a full sentence to explain you've seen it and will investigate what's happening, or you can stick an :eyes: reaction on it and actually focus on investigating. Same if you want someone to wait…

pic says thousand words

emoji says about ten

still an improvement

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Since when are emoji professional? If you're asking whether we use emoji in professional setting to convey important information, yes, we do, in spades. Imagine you see an alert in slack about a critical system. You can type a full sentence to explain you've seen it and will investigate what's happening, or you can stick an :eyes: reaction on it and actually focus on investigating. Same if you want someone to wait…

pic says thousand words emoji says about ten still an improvement

Problem is they don't say the same thing to everybody.

Do eyes emoji mean you are looking at it, or you want me to look at it, or that you have seen it? They don't really say anything.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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post #2

Speaking of font differences, the default Windows emoji font is so bad I don't understand why Google doesn't just ship their Android emoji font with Chrome and default to that.

I liked the Windows 10 emojis with the thick border...

I quite liked them as well. Made them very readable even in small sizes.

But then again, I also loved the Android's old blob emojis[0]. Some specific ones were weird but mostly I really liked the amount of personality and movement they were able to express. But as far as I've been able to tell, most people seemed to hate them, for whatever reason.

[0]: https://emojipedia.org/google/android-6.0.1

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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> The ascent is the distance from the baseline to the top of the tallest glyph, so typically 1em. The descent is the distance from the baseline to the lowest point in any glyph. The descent can be different because on web fonts, glyphs like g or p can have tails that extend below the baseline.

Huh? Different from what? It's described as exactly the same thing as the ascent, but down. And why does the author specify web fonts? This sounds like it applies to fonts in general.

Edit: I think the author is just trying to say the descent varies across fonts, even measured in em. I think "web fonts" and "glyphs can have tails" are just red herrings.

Re: Font height differences between Windows and Mac (2019)

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Using FontForge to regenerate an export is kinda drastic. What you want is ttx from the fontTools font manipulation toolset. ttx can generate an editable XML file with the font’s tables that are easy to make changes in. hhea is obvious to find; for “win”, you probably want to look inside OS/2. If you can afford it, the go to application for this sort of post-production alterations is DTL OTMaster.
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