Live data from Hacker News

We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

blog.sentry.io

11–20 of 191 posts

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#11
post #6
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does have findings, it’s just a long article. Maybe longer than it needs to be. Looks like their SERP ads CPC increased by 30% and conversions decreased, display ad conversions plummeted (partially offset by cheaper CPMs) and YouTube ads switched to optimize for watch time instead of conversions seemed to perform better and lead to cheaper conversions.

The one number that should be of interest to anyone who's not a professional "growth marketer" is missing, though, don't you agree? I skimmed the whole article, read your posting, and even though I know some of these words, I still have no idea if the decision was hurtful to the business, or if it did not move the needle at all, or if it even was a net positive, all things considered.

> I still have no idea if the decision was hurtful to the business, or if it did not move the needle at all, or if it even was a net positive, all things considered

It's incredibly hard to tell. For us the goal of eliminating Cookies was important given the stance we have on privacy so everything went from there. The folks working in marketing for sure were not happy with the directive as it makes their job much harder.

But the world is still spinning, even without cookies. That's enough to call this a success.

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen countless occurrences of Google Tag Manager being routinely used for all kinds of things that aren’t “advertising cookies”. There really is no need for the snark.

It is in the same league as advertising cookies. If I visit a website, I want to read or interact with that website, not with Google. Trying to shove Google into my face will meet the same reaction as trying to shove ads in my face. Getting blocked.

> Trying to shove Google into my face will meet the same reaction as trying to shove ads in my face. Getting blocked.

You will have a hard time browsing the web, including this site ;)

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#13
TLDR;

Performance tanked. Targeting and optimisation dwindled, measurement became directional last click. They still switched to solutions that leverage IP Addresses.

As they burned through their marketing budget, they focused on bogus metrics like dwelltimes and patted eachother on the back.

Fun times ahead.

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen countless occurrences of Google Tag Manager being routinely used for all kinds of things that aren’t “advertising cookies”. There really is no need for the snark.

It is in the same league as advertising cookies. If I visit a website, I want to read or interact with that website, not with Google. Trying to shove Google into my face will meet the same reaction as trying to shove ads in my face. Getting blocked.

> Trying to shove Google into my face

Unless you always browse with the network inspector open I don't really see how that would be the case.

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#15
post #2

I kept waiting for their findings but halfway through it's just a bunch of self-gratifying talk and deflecting talking about why they think it's important - I read for two solid minutes without them getting to any hard numbers or findings.

Marketing speak is incredibly annoying and low content.

That’s why chat GPT is to produce marketing copy that is as good or better than the best ad people can do.

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is in the same league as advertising cookies. If I visit a website, I want to read or interact with that website, not with Google. Trying to shove Google into my face will meet the same reaction as trying to shove ads in my face. Getting blocked.

> Trying to shove Google into my face will meet the same reaction as trying to shove ads in my face. Getting blocked. You will have a hard time browsing the web, including this site ;)

Not at all, just use a content blocker in whitelist mode allowing 1st party content and you're done.

Re: We removed advertising cookies, here's what happened

#18
post #4

Funny that the site tries to load some garbage from googletagmanager.com

I’ve seen countless occurrences of Google Tag Manager being routinely used for all kinds of things that aren’t “advertising cookies”. There really is no need for the snark.

Indeed, you can use that for a plethora of things besides the advertising. Also many websites are using Google Analytics as base tool for reporting and monitoring activities
Post reply on HN