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Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by oblio »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #10
epeus wrote: post #2

Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...

The essay doesn't express opposition to women's suffrage. He just says that women are electorally tough for libertarians. E.g Without expressing opposition to the suffrage of the elderly, I could state that elderly people vote against many of the policies I like.

> Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by agileAlligator »

oblio wrote: post #11
spacebanana7 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The essay doesn't express opposition to women's suffrage. He just says that women are electorally tough for libertarians. E.g Without expressing opposition to the suffrage of the elderly, I could state that elderly people vote against many of the policies I like.

> Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by CuriousCosmic »

otteromkram wrote: post #6

ELI5 - Why does a successful board game need to source funding for a second round of printing?

I'd guess that it's like a lot of other "niche" goods (like keycaps for example). It may be successful and well received but that probably doesn't mean it was worth it for them to buy all the in house tooling to produce the set.

Rather it often makes sense to pay to tool a factory for a limited set of runs, produce the amount you know you can sell plus a bit of extra inventory, and then eventually when it sells out you can consider tooling up again.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by fmbb »

agileAlligator wrote: post #12
oblio wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.

The quote says “capitalist democracy” is an oxymoron. If Thiel is pro-capitalism he thinks democracy is a problem. If he is pro-democracy he thinks capitalism is a problem.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by NilMostChill »

agileAlligator wrote: post #12
oblio wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

Yes, that is what he said. Welfare beneficiaries and women are two groups libertarians find are tough constituencies to appeal to, and both of these groups have increased in size since 1920.

i care little for whatever is going on here but you seem to be purposely ignoring the last part of the sentence.

extra welfare + women voting, (both difficult for libertarians blah blah), have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

edit:

downvote all you like, it doesn't magically make a quarter of a sentence not exist.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by somedude895 »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #10
epeus wrote: post #2

Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...

The essay doesn't express opposition to women's suffrage. He just says that women are electorally tough for libertarians. E.g Without expressing opposition to the suffrage of the elderly, I could state that elderly people vote against many of the policies I like.

> I could state that elderly people vote against many of the policies I like.

Which is actually a common narrative at Huffington Post. Old people's voting patterns are holding us back. So yeah, you're spot on.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by kypro »

epeus wrote: post #2

Is Peter Thiel's opposition to Women's Suffrage still policy at Facebook? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...

From your link:

> It would be absurd to suggest that women’s votes will be taken away or that this would solve the political problems that vex us. While I don’t think any class of people should be disenfranchised, I have little hope that voting will make things better.

Thiel isn't opposed to Women's suffrage, he's just noting that it had negative impacts (in his opinion). By that logic I'm opposed to social media.

Re: Facebook bans ads for Votes for Women boardgame, claims "sensitive social issue"

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Post by scotty79 »

otteromkram wrote: post #6

ELI5 - Why does a successful board game need to source funding for a second round of printing?

Probably most of the first run sold through Kickstarter and despite critical acclaim they didn't get a publishing deal or didn't want a publishing deal.

It's only natural that profit from the first run might not be enough to pay for the costs of second run. And if you don't want investors poking their noses into your business and seeking free rent of of you, you might choose to pre-sell the next batch. And one of the ways you can do that is Kickstarter.

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