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Cloudflare employee posts layoff call with HR and goes viral [video]
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#13This kind of behaviour from HR should be illegal. Be honest and upfront, we're all humans here.
It actually would be illegal in most of the EU (at the very least in The Netherlands) AFAIK.
This is some "only in the US" level stuff (in the context of "The West").
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#15Well, this is interesting. But mostly because cloudflare is doing layoffs, but it sounds like they are trying to fire people instead. Not sure why
Is “firing” 50 people different from “laying off” 50 people?
Legally, they are supposed to treat mass firings differently than just individual firings. WARN act would require advanced notice for firing of 50 or more persons from a location. The location of travel/remote employees would be their nearest office.
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#17cloudflare comes off as absolutely cowardly in this: they don’t even have the person’s manager on the call, they claim it’s a personal performance issue but when pressed it’s actually the whole department getting canned. It’s a bad look
Yeah, that was a terrible way to do it -- don't tell someone their personal performance is why they got fired, when in reality it's the company's performance.
Though maybe her manager is getting canned too and either didn't want to make those calls or they didn't want him on those calls.
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#18Well, this is interesting. But mostly because cloudflare is doing layoffs, but it sounds like they are trying to fire people instead. Not sure why
Is “firing” 50 people different from “laying off” 50 people?
It’s harder to successfully sue for wrongful termination if they were laid off as one of many. Perhaps deceptively firing under the guise of layoffs opens the door to greater scrutiny.
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#19cloudflare comes off as absolutely cowardly in this: they don’t even have the person’s manager on the call, they claim it’s a personal performance issue but when pressed it’s actually the whole department getting canned. It’s a bad look
Yep, this is a very bad look and if it goes seriously viral, is a PR disaster for hiring going forward. At least for me, it only takes a few of these stories to destroy the perception that a place is a good place to work (and that it isn't run by HR).
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