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UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say US officials

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If the US strong armed Israel into a cease fire and to open the blockade on Gaza, two things the US could do if it had the political will, this would stop the Houthi's from attacking ships in the Red Sea. They claim to be fighting against nations supporting the genocide. Seems like they are rational actors even thought I disagree with their methods. Why not deescalate the situation in Gaza and kill two birds with one…

They fire on random ships that have nothing to do with the conflict.

Not true, they let the ships give a clear signal if they're not associated with Israel.

Re: UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say US officials

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The UK and US cares more about shipping lanes than living breathing human beings in Gaza.

Not going to engage in a discussion about valuing human lives, but what are you suggesting? The attacks on ships should be allowed to continue because the conflict? I was pretty young when I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right.

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The UK and US cares more about shipping lanes than living breathing human beings in Gaza.

As someone that’s generally pro Israel on most things, they are literally massacring men, women and children. They’re culling them like sheep. The response to freedom fighters mounting a resistance shouldn’t be genocide.

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As someone that’s generally pro Israel on most things, they are literally massacring men, women and children. They’re culling them like sheep. The response to freedom fighters mounting a resistance shouldn’t be genocide.

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1. It's not clear what that expression actually means; how is the population of Gaza used as "human shields"?

2. Even if it was true, does that then justify murdering them? When there is hostage taking in, say, a supermarket the police tries their best to stop only the hostage taker(s) and not their victim(s); they certainly don't bomb the entire supermarket from the sky causing 500 casualties.

Many Western countries have had brutal acts of terrors committed against them, they didn't raze the entire neighborhoods were the perpetrators lived.

Re: UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say US officials

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The UK and US cares more about shipping lanes than living breathing human beings in Gaza.

As someone that’s generally pro Israel on most things, they are literally massacring men, women and children. They’re culling them like sheep. The response to freedom fighters mounting a resistance shouldn’t be genocide.

It seems like people wake up when it is about Israel but nothing is commented about other athrocities. Double standards are more a mirror about the people. It is not about the issue itself but about the obsessive focus on one topic. If you look at HN most articles pro Israel are flagged while anti-israel does not.

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1. It's not clear what that expression actually means; how is the population of Gaza used as "human shields"? 2. Even if it was true, does that then justify murdering them? When there is hostage taking in, say, a supermarket the police tries their best to stop only the hostage taker(s) and not their victim(s); they certainly don't bomb the entire supermarket from the sky causing 500 casualties. Many Western countries…

Could you please comment about other athrocities in the world in the last few years?

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As someone that’s generally pro Israel on most things, they are literally massacring men, women and children. They’re culling them like sheep. The response to freedom fighters mounting a resistance shouldn’t be genocide.

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Re: UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say US officials

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They fire on random ships that have nothing to do with the conflict.

Not true, they let the ships give a clear signal if they're not associated with Israel.

Maybe? I guess people just aren't giving the right signal? Generally the attacks are wildly disconnected, though on Dec. 12th a Houthi leader did claim they would only attack ships bound for Israel.

3 shortly after:

"On 12 December 2023, the Houthis launched an anti-ship cruise missile attack against the Norwegian commercial ship Strinda, an oil and chemical tanker operated by the J. Ludwig Mowinckels Rederi company, while it was close to the Bab-el-Mandeb. The Strinda was on its way from Malaysia to Italy (via the Suez Canal). The attack caused a fire aboard the ship; no crew members were injured.[72][73] The ship was carrying cargo of palm oil. "

On 13 December 2023, Houthi rebels attempted to board the Ardmore Encounter, a Marshall Islands-flagged commercial tanker coming from Mangaluru, India and en route to either Rotterdam, Netherlands or Gavle, Sweden, but failed, prompting a distress call from the ship. They then targeted the tanker with missiles, which missed. The USS Mason responded to the tanker's distress call and shot down a UAV launched from a Houthi-controlled area. The Ardmore Encounter was able to continue its voyage without further incident.[74]

On 14 December 2023, a Houthi-launched missile was fired at the Maersk Gibraltar, though it missed its target.[75] On 15 December 2023, Houthi spokesperson Yahya Sarea claimed responsibility for attacks on two Liberian-flagged vessels identified as MSC Alanya and MSC Palatium III. The Houthis fired naval missiles at the ships as they alleged they were traveling to Israel.[76]

On 15 December, it was reported that the Liberian-flagged Al-Jasrah, which is owned by Hapag Lloyd, caught fire after being hit by a Houthi-launched projectile while sailing through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait.[77] On 16 December 2023, Royal Navy destroyer HMS Diamond shot down a drone over the Red Sea while it was targeting a commercial ship.[4]

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Not going to engage in a discussion about valuing human lives, but what are you suggesting? The attacks on ships should be allowed to continue because the conflict? I was pretty young when I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right.

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I've in no way said what you seem to think I've said.

Re: UK and US strikes against Houthis under way in Yemen, say US officials

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not going to engage in a discussion about valuing human lives, but what are you suggesting? The attacks on ships should be allowed to continue because the conflict? I was pretty young when I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right.

If the US strong armed Israel into a cease fire and to open the blockade on Gaza, two things the US could do if it had the political will, this would stop the Houthi's from attacking ships in the Red Sea. They claim to be fighting against nations supporting the genocide. Seems like they are rational actors even thought I disagree with their methods. Why not deescalate the situation in Gaza and kill two birds with one…

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