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Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
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Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
#12This is the “everybody knows” narrative that seems to get trotted out whenever modern Boeing has problems. I’m curious - how much of it is true? Is it really systemic, or has it manifested only with one specific model plane? It seems to fit very well with the “financialization is bad” narrative, too, but is there any other data to support the claims? It’s possible that engineer-driven Boeing could have fucked up the…
A family friend who worked at Boeing with a tenure that spanned the merger reported that the management completely went to shit and the engineering culture followed, so it does seem plausible.
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
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Sounds like your parroting Elon's twitter talking points.
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
#14This is the “everybody knows” narrative that seems to get trotted out whenever modern Boeing has problems. I’m curious - how much of it is true? Is it really systemic, or has it manifested only with one specific model plane? It seems to fit very well with the “financialization is bad” narrative, too, but is there any other data to support the claims? It’s possible that engineer-driven Boeing could have fucked up the…
How about internal documents that were released showing discussions between engineers decrying the pressure received to cut costs by ignoring safety régulations?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/boeing-fifth-estate-costs-s...
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The current DEI nonsense is a symptom of shitty management. Chasing the appearance of something rather than doing the real work behind it.
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
#16This is the “everybody knows” narrative that seems to get trotted out whenever modern Boeing has problems. I’m curious - how much of it is true? Is it really systemic, or has it manifested only with one specific model plane? It seems to fit very well with the “financialization is bad” narrative, too, but is there any other data to support the claims? It’s possible that engineer-driven Boeing could have fucked up the…
Or this whistleblower Boeing engineer who has been outspoken about the sefery concerns of the max planes?
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
#17This is the “everybody knows” narrative that seems to get trotted out whenever modern Boeing has problems. I’m curious - how much of it is true? Is it really systemic, or has it manifested only with one specific model plane? It seems to fit very well with the “financialization is bad” narrative, too, but is there any other data to support the claims? It’s possible that engineer-driven Boeing could have fucked up the…
This also presumes that an engineering-driven Boeing would have even built the 737 MAX in the first place. In all likelihood, they would have stayed the course in building a new middle-market, narrow body aircraft rather than continuing to retrofit the aging 737 airframe.
That's the real counterfactual here. Would Boeing have iterated yet again on the 737, or would they have done a clean sheet design instead?
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
#18This is the “everybody knows” narrative that seems to get trotted out whenever modern Boeing has problems. I’m curious - how much of it is true? Is it really systemic, or has it manifested only with one specific model plane? It seems to fit very well with the “financialization is bad” narrative, too, but is there any other data to support the claims? It’s possible that engineer-driven Boeing could have fucked up the…
If it was only 1 isolated issue ok sure...
But there are now several serious safety issues. The 2 crashes killing hundreds in 2018. The quality issues with the manufacturing of the pressure bulkheads with "snowman" holes thst had to be fixed or the rudder bolts that thst hold the assembly to the fuselage that an employee noticed that weren't the same as the spec drawings?
There are probably more cases...
With the multiplication of these problems. It's obviously a systemic issue and a corporate culture that doesn't put as much importance on safety.
Ho and there's this one where Boeing is asking the FAA for a safety exemption so they can ship planes faster while they try and fix the problem...
https://fortune.com/2024/01/06/boeing-737-max-safety-exempti...
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
#19This is the “everybody knows” narrative that seems to get trotted out whenever modern Boeing has problems. I’m curious - how much of it is true? Is it really systemic, or has it manifested only with one specific model plane? It seems to fit very well with the “financialization is bad” narrative, too, but is there any other data to support the claims? It’s possible that engineer-driven Boeing could have fucked up the…
Also, there is this video I watched just yesterday that explains some of the quality issues with their main supplier thst used to be Boeing's prpperty in the past. This just adds to the finance over safety narrative and kind of confirms what this article is saying.
Re: Did a 1997 merger ruin Boeing?
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That doesn't make sense, the decisions which lead to the 737 MAX debacles were made well before the now receding wave of corporate DEI efforts. 737 Max was announced in 2011, work (likely) started a few years prior to that. DEI started gaining traction around 2014, really took off in 2020, if you trust google trends.
A Boeing with chutzpah would have committed to a new plane in the last decade. Their real failure was a failure to aim high. Long before DEI.
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=d...