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Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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"Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours. When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptati…

Its the derivative works that I am worried about. But in context it may just be "thumbnails" or other things for searching content.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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post #5

We may need your permission to do things you ask us to do with your stuff, for example [..]. This includes [..]. It also includes [..]. You give us the permissions we need to do those things solely to provide the Services. So I give Dropbox full access to do things with my stuff ? Seriously? IANAL, but doesn't that include more than what Google says? Also note that Google has this line (you know, just above the parag…

> So I give Dropbox full access to do things with my stuff?

Why'd you leave out the "things you ask us to do" bit?

"You give us permission to kick you in the balls" sounds bad in a contract if you leave out the "because you're signing up to become a mixed martial arts combatant" bit, too.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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post #9

Yup. This is EXACTLY what I knew Google would try to pull. There is no way I'm switching from Dropbox to one of the shadiest online companies out there.

Sounds a little tin-foil hat to me. Care you justify your hyperbole?

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&#... (PUN intended on using Google to show you some of many complaints towards their policies...)

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...

Exactly. The same FUD was being spread around a while back regarding google's terms as related to photo sharing on G+. Google needs these rights to provide certain features...

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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It's the derivative works part of the T&Cs for GDrive that makes it a little wonky, I don't want to give them full license to create any derivative work but I'm happy with them making changes for technical architecture.

But that's so selective and does miss the part where they say your content and copyright is all yours, so it justifies picking on Google for being supposedly creepy.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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"Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours. When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptati…

Its the derivative works that I am worried about. But in context it may just be "thumbnails" or other things for searching content.

Yep. Thumbnails, PDFs, showing excerpts when you search for a document, etc. could all probably be argued to be "derivative works". It's a little crazy that our legal system makes you CYA this much, but it's often necessary.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#20

"Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours. When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptati…

Its the derivative works that I am worried about. But in context it may just be "thumbnails" or other things for searching content.

Editing a shared Google Docs document is inherently creating derivative works. You and anyone editing with you are asking Google to change the original document via HTTP requests. Each edit is a derivative work of the original document you uploaded to Google Docs, so of course Google needs to be allowed to do this as part of its license to use your data.
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