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Two physicists who correctly predicted the mass of Higgs boson [video]

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Re: Two physicists who correctly predicted the mass of Higgs boson [video]

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Sabine is, uh, somewhat controversial.

She is a physicist who is not into string theory or dark matter, which is definitely more controversial of a position within the physics community than outside.

She also made a video on capitalism, which was politically controversial (obviously) but also made several blatantly, objectively wrong claims that were based on no research whatsoever (cough barter economy cough).

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Sabine is, uh, somewhat controversial.

It is known that some of her positions are "somewhat controversial". But how controversial is this one?

Which position? In the video she simply embedded an interesting anecdote into textbook knowledge. Don't know what the flagged comment said though.

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Those that are worth listening to often are.

Many that are worth listening to are controversial. But many that are controversial are not worth listening to. Which is which is a hard question to answer :)

yes, but this means that if you divide people into those with controversial opinions, and those without, you should direct 100% of your listening to the first group. at some point you will have to be more selective than that, but that's clearly the first step

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is known that some of her positions are "somewhat controversial". But how controversial is this one?

Which position? In the video she simply embedded an interesting anecdote into textbook knowledge. Don't know what the flagged comment said though.

The one that she articulates at 7:10 onwards in the video. Starting with "What does this all means? it means that Quantum gravity just might..."

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what does this mean?

Sabine is, uh, somewhat controversial.

> Sabine is, uh, somewhat controversial.

At the same time people never really seem to be able to give a reasonable explanation as to why, beyond that they disagree with some of her takes.

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post #13

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Many that are worth listening to are controversial. But many that are controversial are not worth listening to. Which is which is a hard question to answer :)

yes, but this means that if you divide people into those with controversial opinions, and those without, you should direct 100% of your listening to the first group. at some point you will have to be more selective than that, but that's clearly the first step

You can't make that division. Controversialness is not binary. Almost every researcher has a few controversial ideas, that's just natural when trying to push the envelope. Unfortunately, some like to be controversial for the sake of being controversial, and some are so far out there that it would be a waste of time to listen to them.

Re: Two physicists who correctly predicted the mass of Higgs boson [video]

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many that are worth listening to are controversial. But many that are controversial are not worth listening to. Which is which is a hard question to answer :)

yes, but this means that if you divide people into those with controversial opinions, and those without, you should direct 100% of your listening to the first group. at some point you will have to be more selective than that, but that's clearly the first step

The cutting edge of progress is going to be found in controversy, but the "boring" established fact is often correct.

Non controversial people are worth listening to as well.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

She is a physicist who is not into string theory or dark matter, which is definitely more controversial of a position within the physics community than outside.

She also made a video on capitalism, which was politically controversial (obviously) but also made several blatantly, objectively wrong claims that were based on no research whatsoever (cough barter economy cough).

Most people have bad takes outside of their field of expertise. I haven't seen her video on capitalism, but honestly no matter how horrible it is, i doubt it would change my view on her videos on physics.

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“My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was much less competition there.” (Indira Gandhi)

I think I actually disagree with Gandhi here. Lol. There are a lot of people that do the work. The numbers of those who take the credit are much less. However, there is usually a power imbalance that yields to their ability to do so. So it's not about numbers. It's about power.
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