https://news.sky.com/story/us-general-warns-british-army-no-...
They’ve apparently kept cutting costs for a long period of time. This has probably hurt the value proposition for attracting young talent.
Royal Navy forced to recruit for tob job on social media
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#12I thought "tob" was a typo in the HN submission but no, it's right there on their website.
Tactical Order of Battle, maybe?
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#13> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?
Who amongst GenZ would be qualified for a Rear Admiral position anyways? The job requires 20 years of experience in the armed forces.
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#14I thought "tob" was a typo in the HN submission but no, it's right there on their website.
It must be a typo from the independent, right? Its driving my insane.
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#15To fill a position as "director of submarines and [who] would be responsible for 'elite operations' and the nation’s nuclear deterrent" requires intimate knowledge of the workings of the Royal Navy. It would almost certainly be a promotion from within or for someone who had as least previously worked for the Royal Navy and risen to a high level. Wouldn't hiring a headhunter to do a targeted search work better than using Linkedin?
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#16> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?
While I was never eligible to serve in the military due to a health condition, I can also say that violent video games had the opposite effect on me that many adults feared they might - I learned via first person shooters that other humans were quite skilled at killing me and was smart enough to know that there aren't any re-spawns in real life. As a result, I never wanted to get in a gunfight with anyone.
Also, while I was quite naive to the realities of the geopolitical order as a kid (and probably am now too as an adult), the clear hard sell pitch that George Bush gave the country about how we needed to invade Iraq made me instantly suspicious of his motivations. I think that instinct has proven quite correct in retrospect and is probably one of the happenings you're alluding to over the last few decades.
That's just me as an American Millennial, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's somewhat of a general view.
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#17> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?
A whole lot of (mostly-)little things, over the past half-ish century, have lead them to seriously doubt the existing social order. Volunteering for military service is something of an all-in endorsement of that order. Though it doesn't help that British kids have felt no visceral "we're at risk from $Powerful_Enemy!" fears since ~1990.
One has to wonder if a majority of lower class able bodied men would particularly care if an enemy took over.
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#18Maybe I'm exposing my own stupidity here, but why would it be bad to advertise the position? Is it because they used LinkedIn or is the mere action of advertising the position instead of trying to fill the position in secrecy the bad part? I'm guessing that $TODAYS_ENEMY would know about the position being unfilled no matter if it's posted on LinkedIn or not, which some "former submariner" complained about.
> why would it be bad to advertise the position? Not an expert but from what I understand a position of this level should ideally be filled internally by reassigning or promoting a officer that is already serving. These posts are really important and need someone with decades of experience in the navy. It is terrible if they cannot find someone internally.
I wouldn't even say ideally. I would say filling internally is essential. The top comment on the featured article I think summarizes it well: It's not the broader recruitment issue among gen Z. It's that for some reason none of the senior officers below this position want it. THAT is indeed quite troubling.
It suggests strongly that the entire organization has deep systemic issues that no one wants to step up and try to fix.
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#19> Generation Z is not joining the armed forces in the way my generation did Why aren't the kids joining the military? Did something happen in the last few decades that made them rethink it as a career option, possibly?
Who amongst GenZ would be qualified for a Rear Admiral position anyways? The job requires 20 years of experience in the armed forces.
I'm guessing they're trying to say, because Gen Z isn't interested in the military, they didn't join early on and built enough experience and knowledge to now be eligible for the position.
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#20I thought "tob" was a typo in the HN submission but no, it's right there on their website.
Tob -> Top