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How to build a thinking AI

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Re: How to build a thinking AI

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Post by TaupeRanger »

techbro92 wrote: post #10

“Implementing this in a machine will enable artificial general intelligence” If that’s true why didn’t he just implement it? Why should I take anyone seriously that just talks about code instead of actually coding it? This would be much more compelling if he just showed benchmarks and performance instead of writing up an argument. Furthermore, I don’t believe him.

It's the same hyperbolic nonsense we've seen from hundreds of other confident "researchers" over the past 50 years. Eliasmith has a book called "How to Build a Brain", Hawkins built an entire company, Numenta, around a theory that hasn't created anything remotely useful or interesting in almost 2 decades and has pivoted to creating tools for current ML zeitgeist methods.

This unknown researcher is exactly the same. Write books and papers for years while creating literally nothing of actual value or usefulness in the real world. But what else would you do in his situation? You have to publish or die in academia. Publish the 1,000th iteration of some subset of LLM architecture? Or create grandiose claims about "implementing human thought" in the hopes that some people will be impressed?

Re: How to build a thinking AI

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Post by jackblemming »

techbro92 wrote: post #10

“Implementing this in a machine will enable artificial general intelligence” If that’s true why didn’t he just implement it? Why should I take anyone seriously that just talks about code instead of actually coding it? This would be much more compelling if he just showed benchmarks and performance instead of writing up an argument. Furthermore, I don’t believe him.

There are a ton of people like this, trying to flag plant obvious “duh” ideas so they can jump in and say “see I knew it would require some kind of long term memory!”… Duh?

The implementation and results are what matter. Nobody cares that you thought AGI would require long term memory.

Re: How to build a thinking AI

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Post by yagizdegirmenci »

techbro92 wrote: post #10

“Implementing this in a machine will enable artificial general intelligence” If that’s true why didn’t he just implement it? Why should I take anyone seriously that just talks about code instead of actually coding it? This would be much more compelling if he just showed benchmarks and performance instead of writing up an argument. Furthermore, I don’t believe him.

I looked it up, the author has PhD in Brain and Cognitive Science.

Are you aware of the fact that even partially implementing something like this, would require multi-year effort with dozens of engineers at minimum and will cost millions of dollars just for training.

Re: How to build a thinking AI

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Post by layer8 »

While I agree that autonomous iteration will be important to AGI, I somehow have trouble taking an author serious who presents tables as screenshot images containing red spell-checking squiggles.

Re: How to build a thinking AI

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Post by sram1337 »

yagizdegirmenci wrote: post #13
techbro92 wrote: post #10

“Implementing this in a machine will enable artificial general intelligence” If that’s true why didn’t he just implement it? Why should I take anyone seriously that just talks about code instead of actually coding it? This would be much more compelling if he just showed benchmarks and performance instead of writing up an argument. Furthermore, I don’t believe him.

I looked it up, the author has PhD in Brain and Cognitive Science. Are you aware of the fact that even partially implementing something like this, would require multi-year effort with dozens of engineers at minimum and will cost millions of dollars just for training.

The perfect way to never have your theories invalidated

Re: How to build a thinking AI

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Post by olddustytrail »

yagizdegirmenci wrote: post #13
techbro92 wrote: post #10

“Implementing this in a machine will enable artificial general intelligence” If that’s true why didn’t he just implement it? Why should I take anyone seriously that just talks about code instead of actually coding it? This would be much more compelling if he just showed benchmarks and performance instead of writing up an argument. Furthermore, I don’t believe him.

I looked it up, the author has PhD in Brain and Cognitive Science. Are you aware of the fact that even partially implementing something like this, would require multi-year effort with dozens of engineers at minimum and will cost millions of dollars just for training.

That's a tiny team, a short timescale, and a trivial cost.

Seriously, when you're a bit older you'll see more wasted on the most useless ideas.

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